First service Eco Diesel

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
You do know that Chrysler does not make their own filters, right Hunter? I don't know who makes the filter for the Eco-diesel but all of the rest of our filters are made by Wix Filter Company. So as long as your using a filter that meets Chrysler specs your good.

Don

Actually made by a company named UFI, bigger in hydraulic equipment filters but make several oem oil filters, Ferrari for one. They do market oil filters under their own name in this country for reasonable prices & speculation is one will soon be available for the ed sub 10 bux.

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
Bionic Man I'm kinda like Tory sometimes so no worries. Being the he has said his Family owns or owed a Chrysler store he knows that giving a free oil change away will get you more customers then not.

When AJ could not come close to the lease payment we needed I called two Chevy dealers looking at the Cruze because they were advertising leases for $149. Both dealerships told me sorry we only had two for that payment and they sold. BTW both are very notorious for this.

Jim usually does not give out four oil changes, but like I said we buy all of our new vehicles and a few used from him so it's not a big deal to him. I do know that his son and son-in-law have jumped on him about a few of the deals we hammered out. But Jim owns the store not them. When Jim retires we will see how or if AJ works with me. If he doesn't, then I'll have to call Daddy LOL.

Don

I never said my family own/ed a Chrysler dealer. For the record my mom worked at a Chrysler 5 Star dealer/GM dealer for ~35 years.

dodge guy wrote:

Weldon wrote:
I had to have a starter for my 2001 F-250 diesel...
Oreilly and Auto zone, $180. with lifetime warranty
Napa, $240. with lifetime warranty.

Ford dealer, $480. with 12 month or 12,000 miles whichever comes first.

I went with Napa..

And you`ll be replacing them much more often!

I had a bad experience with aftermarket starters on my Excursion.
The OEM Ford starter did the trick. While less expensive the aftermarket starters only last 2-3 months. 3 of them !

I worked for a major auto manufacturer for 24 years--closely with all facets of dealerships including parts and service.

Only time any dealership sees any of my vehicles is when the factory's picking up the tab. The manufacturers have given dealerships a license to steal when it comes to parts and service--especially with their maintenance packages. No thanks.

My last 600k miles driven on new cars have been without any warranty work being conducted.

Unfortunately, Chrysler engineered an oil filter just for the 3.0 diesel. That's a rarity in the auto world. $60 list price--$43.92 online. And outside filter companies have not come up with a replacement yet. Sorry about that.

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
You do know that Chrysler does not make their own filters, right Hunter? I don't know who makes the filter for the Eco-diesel but all of the rest of our filters are made by Wix Filter Company. So as long as your using a filter that meets Chrysler specs your good.

Don

I would assume that much. However, having had my share of new vehicles, and my share of warranty claims, I would not run a non OEM oil filter. DIY oil changes even require proof, but a DIY oil change and non OEM filter will at very least make for a fight up here in Canada in the event of a failure. Dodge tends to be one of the better OEM's in terms of honoring warranty claims, so that is a factor as well. And if the filter has even the slightest defect, the fact that it is rated to meet the spec won't matter. Dodge will not go out of their way to verify it meets it's spec, you will be relying on the vendor / manufacturer for accuracy of such.

I happened to get a brand new 2014 snowmobile with a defective oil filter straight from the factory, so it does happen. OEM filters and Mobil1 is a good value when it comes to peace of mind. Mind you, my motocraft filters are $10 for my junky Ford.....

The price for the Fiat /Mopar filter is likely indicative of a very high quality filter as well. The aftermarket will not give them away either, they have no reason to.

I found this about oil filters. Now dont know how old it is or if the same manufacturers still make the filters for the same OEM. But there are only a few company's that make filters.

There are just a few major oil filter manufacturers. Champion Labs makes OEM Motorcraft, OEM GM on some applications, AC, Valvoline, AutoZone and the Mobil 1 filter. Purolator makes the aftermarket MotorCraft, Group 7 and Mopar. Wix makes NAPA and CarQuest. And of course there is Fram.

All oil filter manufacturers make filters for the various private brand guys. Examples of filters made by others would include STP, Lee, Valvoline, Quaker State, Shell, Mobil 1, Bosch and Mopar. Champion Labs makes over 100 private label filters and more than a few original equipment (OEM) oil filters.

You do know that Chrysler does not make their own filters, right Hunter? I don't know who makes the filter for the Eco-diesel but all of the rest of our filters are made by Wix Filter Company. So as long as your using a filter that meets Chrysler specs your good.

Don

So for the average ~non gearhead~ customer, the ED won't be cheap to buy or own.
Nothing surprising about that, just some firm numbers to make the point. Except the DEF robbery, that's a bit steeper than most will pay IMO. That's a lot of oil every 10K, and I'm sure it must have to meet one of the latest specs. Any time you bring DIY prices into the discussion, that's like comparing a tuned vehicle vs stock. It's 2 different discussions.

And anyone who thinks that good value is a non OEM oil filter when under warranty may as well realize that warranty will be an issue if a fluke failure occurs.

Bionic Man I'm kinda like Tory sometimes so no worries. Being the he has said his Family owns or owed a Chrysler store he knows that giving a free oil change away will get you more customers then not.

When AJ could not come close to the lease payment we needed I called two Chevy dealers looking at the Cruze because they were advertising leases for $149. Both dealerships told me sorry we only had two for that payment and they sold. BTW both are very notorious for this.

Jim usually does not give out four oil changes, but like I said we buy all of our new vehicles and a few used from him so it's not a big deal to him. I do know that his son and son-in-law have jumped on him about a few of the deals we hammered out. But Jim owns the store not them. When Jim retires we will see how or if AJ works with me. If he doesn't, then I'll have to call Daddy LOL.

Don

Don, I think that Troy just likes to argue on some of this stuff.

While I will agree in principal that there is no free lunch, I will also say that there are some give-aways that are as close to free as you will ever get. I manage a sales force, and my reps know that there is a floor price on all items that I won't approve further discount on. They also know that there are certain things they can treat as gvie aways that have good value to sweeten the deal to get the customer to commit to purchase.

I think that including oil changes with the purchase of a vehicle falls into that category. There is up side to the dealer for doing so above and beyond getting the sale.