Ford 6.7L 1050 ft lbs TQ at 1,600 rpm, 475 HP at 2,800 rpm

Cummins12V98 wrote:

4x4ord wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

4x4ord wrote:
^^^^^When I get my new Powerstroke you might have to pull over to let me by on the long steep hills.:B

Is your 17 "OLD" ???

Not really old just out dated and kinda slow.:)

You may be disappointed. I test drove a 19 RAM AISIN. It didn’t feel any different than my measly 15.

I have been talking to my dealer about this for a while and it’s one of the things that made me NOT buy a new diesel pusher. We all know the Cummins 6.7 is fully electronic. As an example, a while back I was involved in a retrofit of a much larger Cummins as a replacement for a M60 tank engine on a Westinghouse 191 frame gas turbine. The Cummins was the only motor made then, that could match the torque of the old tank motor. (I haven’t looked to see if that’s true now but it probably is).

So the Cummins has to be detuned and the Cummins engineer just brought in his interface and matched the old M60 torque curves. I think it still had a bit more HP.

So my point is that the CTD, unless you are towing near MAX weight, performs it’s job consistently and one probably can’t feel the difference between a 2015 Cummins and a new 2019 model except the new one might be quieter. The CTD just does its job, not trying to be the fastest, thus for the CTD I don’t know if 10 gears makes a difference over a 6 speed the way Cummins manages their motors for long reliability.

One of the YouTube guys, who owns a towing business thinks the whole 2019 package versus a 2018 is more revolutionary as a total entity than the numbers show. He’s called PDDiesel Power if you want to check out his review. He’s not very scientific but I watched a video last year he did and he keeps popping up on my YouTube page once in a while.

So will 75 HP and 50 ft lbs of torque of the Ford over the Cummins make a difference in the testing TFL truck does hauling near max weight? It will be interesting to see. The 2018 models were essentially tied. If you limit the speed to 60mph, and if all three are capable of pulling 35000 lbs at 60 mph all the way up the Ike, then the only time difference will be acceleration from the start to 60 mph.

Which is what torqued me off, pun intending, about buying a class a. I’m sitting with a Ram 3500 I paid $56000 for versus a DP w the same motor hooked to an Allison w less HP and torque. So you got this game they play, well this 6.7 CTD has 300 hp and cost $175000, 320 Hp costs $185000, 340 HP cost $195,000 360 HP costs $205,000 and 380 hp you get to pay $225,000. And it’s all marketing bs expect you do get the more heavy duty 3500 Allison on the last 2.

A Ram truck is boring, it just does it’s job, and I find that boring exciting because when I’m out west w my 14,500 lb fifth wheel I just want to get up and down the mountain passes competently and safely and I don’t care to win a race but I do care I get to the bottom without any white knuckles.

And I’d guess all three manufactures can do that easily w 14,500 lbs. lol

Peace.