Appeals court: Ford committed fraud by selling defective Super Duty trucks Why I've never liked class action...let's the OEM dodge the bigger bullet

I guess my father-in-law got lucky with his 2003 6.0L in his old F350. He sold it with over 300k on it, and never had emissions issues. He tuned it around 120k and started having fuel pump/injector issues around 250k, but other than that no issues with the engine. He had to replace the transmission twice within 175k miles due to burning up the O/D clutches, but I that was his fault because he never take O/D off when towing or use tow/haul. After his seconds trans, he took my advice to use tow/haul and take off O/D and he had no problems with the trans lasting.

My son's truck was a total loss when the fuel pump failed and sent metal shards through his engine. Ford knew of this issue but did nothing about it. Ford SHOULD have replaced the fuel pumps on these trucks. The next model year they changed out the fuel pump to a different type...I will never own a Ford...

smarty wrote:My son's truck was a total loss when the fuel pump failed and sent metal shards through his engine. Ford knew of this issue but did nothing about it. Ford SHOULD have replaced the fuel pumps on these trucks. The next model year they changed out the fuel pump to a different type...I will never own a Ford...On the 6.0? Are you sure you are not mistaking it for the 6.7L? The 6.0L had the same HEUI pump that the 7.3L had, and was not known to grenade like that. If fact, I have never heard of one grenade like that. They just generally loose pressure when they fail.

^ Ya Shiner, but “your” story isn’t near as dramatic and flashy.....I love just listening to people talk who don’t know a muffler bearing from blinker fluid!Just last night at sons hockey practice, one of the dads is braggin up his new 38’ TT that he bought last week. Basically he got one upped by another dad who bought a peenis enlarging 5ver and towed it to the last tourney and “saved money” by not staying in the hotel (for one night, 700 mile round trip...lol). But I digress...Dad with the new TT, he and the other dude are “camping” this weekends tournament in Boise, cause a $48 RV spot is cheaper than the hotel.... He11 I ran the numbers and it was break even driving the TC over there compared to 3 nights hotel and taking the SRT. Plus with the car I can get to Boise in about 2 hours quicker. Asked him how it tows (his tow rig is a tundra with about a 8” lift and brodozer wheels, biguns like 37 15.50s or something). He said “great, towed like a dream, still got 15 mpg too.”I’d love to follow him up Vantage hill and see what he considers a dream!He’s a dumb arse btw. Nice guy but...wears bedazzled Western jeans and he’s a city slicker.

BTW my digression is about as pertinanet as any 6.0no Ford news ....

Ford 6L diesel in the news again | Good Sam Community

blofgren
Explorer
Oct 17, 2020
StirCrazy wrote:
you know I think I know about 20 people whi had 6L and the only ones that ever had issues were the ones that "tuned" the engines, the guys that left them stock love them.

Steve

Mine was bone stock and it was a high maintenance POS. After thousands in repairs, both warranty and out of pocket we still had a truck that we were afraid to take far from home. I tried to sell it, no luck. I had a very tough time finding anyone to take it on trade; finally found a dealer who would when I bought the truck in my signature new. I made the change and have absolutely no regrets. Ford didn’t spend $1B in warranty repairs on the 6.0L because it was a good engine....
deltabravo
Nomad
Oct 17, 2020
Grit dog wrote:

I’d love to follow him up Vantage hill and see what he considers a dream!

And Cabbage hill too!

At least Vantage hill is mostly straight. Cabbage hill require me to slow way down going around the hairpin turns.
dodge_guy
Explorer II
Oct 16, 2020
When I bought my X in 06 I really wanted the 6.0. But I came across A very clean low mile V-10. Glad I did. This was before all the problems of the 6.0 were evident. The V-10 never left me stranded and made it up the mountains just as easily as the diesel did. I’ll take a few less mpg over being stuck in the middle of no where!
Grit_dog
Navigator
Oct 16, 2020
Ford owners be butt hurt....again.
Like said earlier , this is completely old news.
All vehicles are the best thing since beer in a can some days and complete junk others.
Only thing is, the bluelaid drinkers have the most blind loyalty it seems.
2012Coleman
Explorer II
Oct 16, 2020
Bird Freak wrote:
ksss wrote:
Bird Freak wrote:
How about that. All the same old Ford bashers jumped right back on the wagon.

Well the 6.0/6.4 bashing bandwagon has a lot of seats on it so....

Did you read the part about knowing the issues, citing the Class Action Lawsuit potential and trying to keep it quiet? Your good with that? If everyone that has issue with it is a Ford basher, than I guess being ok with it makes you a Ford apologist. There are seats on that bandwagon as well.
No apologist here. I just have better things to do than harp on something for 17 years. By the way, my truck still runs great so not all were bad.
Yet you always find time to post on here about it - big HO HUM
ShinerBock
Explorer
Oct 16, 2020
StirCrazy wrote:
you know I think I know about 20 people whi had 6L and the only ones that ever had issues were the ones that "tuned" the engines, the guys that left them stock love them.

Steve

As I stated in the first post, my father-in-law tuned his 2003(he bought new) at around 120k, maybe sooner. He did not start having issues with it until around 290-300k. My brother-in-law has a tuned 2005 6.0L, but his is bulletproofed putting out about 400hp at the wheels.
pitch
Explorer II
Oct 16, 2020
Bird Freak wrote:
How about that. All the same old Ford bashers jumped right back on the wagon.

Lets take a look at Ford history.
Cheaper to let Pintos explode rather than to retrofit a bladder.
Much internal discussion before they decided profits were more important than customer lives
Reduce recommended tire pressures in Explorers instead of designing the suspension they wanted.
Just a few lives there.

Ford has committed many other dubious acts.
Not saying other companies are immune, but Ford does deserve it's "bashing"
Is it bashing if it is a fact? or is it post 2016 news?
StirCrazy
Moderator
Oct 16, 2020
you know I think I know about 20 people whi had 6L and the only ones that ever had issues were the ones that "tuned" the engines, the guys that left them stock love them.

Steve
Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Oct 15, 2020
Bird Freak wrote:
How about that. All the same old Ford bashers jumped right back on the wagon.

HEY they have always made a good truck. I owned a great 69 Ranger F100. But you have to admit the 6.0, 6.4 and earlier 6.7's deserved critiquing. The newer 6.7's and truck seem to be doing well.
p220sigman
Explorer
Oct 15, 2020
Like with any consumer product, people don't necessarily never buy a manufacturer's products again if they have problems, but a lot of times it does depend on how the company responds to the problems.

My wife's uncle owned a Ford Taurus wagon that he complained about ignition issues with for a couple years and Ford steadfastly denied any issues existed. One day, they came out to the car on fire under their carport. Luckily, they were able to hold the fire at bay until the fire department arrived to finish the job so the house didn't sustain significant damage. The cause of the fire? It started in the area of the ignition cylinder. Ford continued to deny it was an issue. To this day, my wife refuses to even consider a Ford product based on this. She will tell you that it isn't that the car had issues, but it was the way Ford dealt with it.