Ford 7.3L GASSER rumor confirmed

anw7405 wrote:
I feel like the the HD gas trucks/suv's are in that constricting era that muscle cars went through in the 80's. You had all the big power cars before the 80's and then nothing but turds for a while. 90's rolled around and it has been improving performance ever since.

The HD gassers seem kind of stuck. I would love to see a ford 7.3 gas. Maybe GM and Ram would have to step it up a bit to compete. Bring back the 8.1 GM and I'm sure Ram would come up with something too.

Nothing constricted about it. There aren’t big hp gas trucks because...........
Wait for it...............
There are big power diesels. Who wants 500hp and 500 ft lbs and 7 mpg when you can have 450hp, 950ft lbs and 30% better fuel mileage.
If you NEED that kind of power out of a gasser, you’re better off getting a diesel.
Unless you’re one of the many that can’t bring themselves to bear getting, gulp, an oil burner.
Love to see more power coming out in trucks. They’ll make nice hotrods 20 years from now

Don't think many are jumping from a 13 or newer RAM/CUMMINS. If they were the resale wall would not be so high!

ScottG wrote:
At best it would have half the torque of a modern diesel so no, not many would jump ship for one.

From what I have heard the 7.3 is being designed for torque and efficiency so I expect at least as much torque per liter as the 5.0. Just getting the same amount would give it 580lbf. That is about 70% as much torque. Plus, what would be the purpose of building a new engine for the Superduty and medium duty trucks that doesn't compete with the performance of the diesel? At least, for a significant portion of the customers.

Dave H M wrote:
Wow, I wonder how thirsty that moose will be? My Ford 6.2 can do over 7 gallons per hour if it grunting.

Rumor is the new engine will include a contract with Exxon to refuel via tanker while in motion. Problem$ $olved, gulp gulp gulp.

At best it would have half the torque of a modern diesel so no, not many would jump ship for one.

Always turns into a diesel vs. gas discussion. We have a thread on that already.

Going to be interesting to see the power numbers. 400+ HP and 500+ torque? Sign me up.

"Truckers are like many people here, they make their decisions based on emotions and how the feel about something rather then actual data. "

I will give you that one. I am old enough to remember when most trucks had crossbar treads on the drive tires and the drivers were convinced that they would get stuck without them. That tread increased fuel consumption about 10% and you could hear them pounding on the asphalt a mile or two away but it took years to wean the truckers away from it.

If people go purely on facts and Tesla delivers what they are promising I think that they are going to make huge inroads into the diesel market as fast as they can build the trucks. Plus, they have a lot of competition with big names trying to beat them to the market. Tesla is probably going to be running over 1,000hp at any speed so it will be rare for them to slow down due to hills plus they will regenerate going down hill to control their speed so the wild speed variations may go away. Hilly and crowded interstates will be much more pleasant and safe for all of us if that happens.

As for the fuel economy, I am actually amazed with the economy I get from my diesel pusher with a Cummins engine. But, very few people I talk with get the mpg's from their diesel motorhomes that I do. I wish that I understood why mine does so much better than most. I get nearly 12 with just the motorhome and got just under 11 on 4,200 mile trip across the rockies towing a Ford Taurus on a dolly while averaging just over 70mph. It is hard to give exact numbers because the generator pulls from the same tank and it is hard to tell how much the genny burns. I would love to know how the same rig would do with a gas engine, as much out of curiosity as anything else.

Groover wrote:
The diesel engines themselves are fine. It is the emission systems and mostly the particulate filters that I am hearing about. The story I hear from the truckers that I know is that the new engines burn burn a third more fuel that the old ones.

Stories from truckers are just that, stories. Almost all of them don't even pay for their own fuel and certainly don't know how much fuel their truck is burning in comparison to older trucks. Truckers are like many people here, they make their decisions based on emotions and how the feel about something rather then actual data.

Groover wrote:
And there is no escaping the high carbon content of diesel which is blamed for global warming. I think that we can expect a carbon tax on diesel as soon as Trump is out of the White House. Even with the current price of diesel vs gasoline I go gasoline when I have the choice.

While diesel fuel has more carbon, gas engines actually emit higher CO2 emissions than diesel engines. That is a fact. And I can Guarantee you that your Ecoboost engines emit more particulate matter than current diesels too. Heck, they probably even emit more PM than my deleted diesel. NOx on the other hand....

Wow, I wonder how thirsty that moose will be? My Ford 6.2 can do over 7 gallons per hour if it grunting.

I feel like the the HD gas trucks/suv's are in that constricting era that muscle cars went through in the 80's. You had all the big power cars before the 80's and then nothing but turds for a while. 90's rolled around and it has been improving performance ever since.

The HD gassers seem kind of stuck. I would love to see a ford 7.3 gas. Maybe GM and Ram would have to step it up a bit to compete. Bring back the 8.1 GM and I'm sure Ram would come up with something too.