Ford 7.3L GASSER rumor confirmed

you can always bet on the diesel (whatever) just waiting around like trap door spiders for the three letter word to be spoken. :R

I see the words jumping ship really got their shorts wadded up this time. :B

Way to go guys!

Cummins12V98 wrote:
"Wow 9 mpg towing 6K, I get 12 mpg towing 12.5K."

I only get 9 hand calc AVERAGE over thousands of miles towing a combined 33k. When I add my MC trailer and two Cruisers I am knocked down to 8.75. Maybe one of them new fangled gassers would do better???

BTW his second gen Cummins with a stick is about the most fuel effect vehicle out there.

My 98 12V would get in the high 22's when I was commuting 100 miles each way, hand calc. Reason it was not better was it was an auto. I logged many thousands of miles with that truck towing a combined 20k+ at around 11mpg.

You guys realize that was the mileage coming out of my 5.3 Silvy, right?
And to be fair I drive it like a Rental!
I did manage to pull down about 7 mpg according to the dic on my Diesel this summer.
TC on the back, boat in tow, westbound into a nasty headwind cruise on 70 sure burned some dinosaurs!

Regardless of whatever claims are made (some true, some not) no one else knows the actual conditions the claim was made in, but 1 thing is for sure. Diesels get roughly the same difference in mileage as the fuel has in btu content for the same set of conditions once you start working them.

"Wow 9 mpg towing 6K, I get 12 mpg towing 12.5K."

I only get 9 hand calc AVERAGE over thousands of miles towing a combined 33k. When I add my MC trailer and two Cruisers I am knocked down to 8.75. Maybe one of them new fangled gassers would do better???

BTW his second gen Cummins with a stick is about the most fuel effect vehicle out there.

My 98 12V would get in the high 22's when I was commuting 100 miles each way, hand calc. Reason it was not better was it was an auto. I logged many thousands of miles with that truck towing a combined 20k+ at around 11mpg.

dodge guy wrote:
I see the diesel guys still like to spin up great stories! I love reading them because it gives me some good ideas for writing. I`m sure the 25mpg towing that I read about still happens all the time right?

:R

And you are not spinning stories by saying gas engine don't break down? At least we are being more realistic by saying that all engines need to be repaired at some point and not saying that gas engines are some sort of rainbow unicorns that never break down. I believe your bias is making you very irrational.

colliehauler wrote:
So will they keep the 6.2 for the F-250 and F-350 and only use the engine in medium duty truck's?

No, the engine is definitely slated for the Raptor which is why there are rumors of some different versions. Apparently a fair number of people in the market for a Raptor insist on the V8 sound though there may be more involved. It may even show up in other versions of the F150. The 7.3 is supposed to replace the V10 and the 6.2 with newer and more efficient technology. There is a lot of speculation on YouTube about the engine but not a whole lot of hard facts. I think that it is fair to say that Ford wants to drop the V10, improve on the 6.2, hold on to their considerable chunk of the medium duty and motorhome markets, both class A and class C, and offer another option for Raptor all in one basic engine. They are still producing two versions of the V10, a two valve for the class C market and the three valve for the medium duty and class A markets so some different versions of the new engine would not be a big stretch.

dodge guy wrote:
I see the diesel guys still like to spin up great stories! I love reading them because it gives me some good ideas for writing. I`m sure the 25mpg towing that I read about still happens all the time right?

:R

I verified my lie-o-meter to read 1 mpg to the high. I have gotten the display to 25 mpg empty and close to 15 mpg towing 7,000# , 30’ four horse with Living quarters GN.’Both numbers were doing about 65 mph. Yes not newer 2001 5.9.

I also had two Ford 460’s and the best I got was 10 mpg either way.

I see the diesel guys still like to spin up great stories! I love reading them because it gives me some good ideas for writing. I`m sure the 25mpg towing that I read about still happens all the time right?

:R

Grit dog wrote:

dodge guy wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

Groover wrote:
"They don't break down? Really? No lifter issues, timing chain issues or anything? I think this is more seeing what you want to see or not seeing what you don't want to see. Every engine, diesel or gas, breaks down. Gas engines are not magically immune from this."

I am in my mid-fifties and the only time that I have had to have a vehicle towed was when a transmission went out. I had to do some field repairs when the crankshaft pulley bolts came loose on my 460, my diesel tractor could barely drag itself back on the trailer when the EGR valve stuck and the hoseclamps came loose on my Cummins. Since I have spent a lot more time with gas engines I would have to give the nod to them.

Since I have spent a lot more time with diesel engines I would have to give the nod to them. Hey look, our opinions cancel each other out.:B

I`m also a diesel tech as well as gas engine tech. so yes from both perspectives the diesel isn't what it used to be. sure if you want 900lb feet of torque out of a 3/4 ton truck great, but it has to be able to make it back home! and as far as fuel mileage, diesel again isn't much better than gassers.

Ask any smart diesel tech what they drive? chances are its a gasser. If not, its an older and more reliable diesel.

Now this is funny coming from a "diesel tech" portraying them as heaps that can't make it home and don't get better mileage! Lol.

Now, my new 5.3 Silverado claims 18-20 mpg hauling @ss on small bald tires across eastern WA, and I believe it. AND that's dang impressive. Same truck, I can hook a 6klb trailer, same route, slightly slower and get 9 mpg.
Any run of the mill "pos" diesel would embarrass it at the gas pump.
Yes gassers can pull down some seriously impressive mileage numbers I'd not have believed even a few years ago. But it's under ideal conditions.

Wow 9 mpg towing 6K, I get 12 mpg towing 12.5K.

I don’t think I would like the towing mileage with a 7.3 gassed.

Oh and during that 50 year blow, I turned the truck around and drove it backwards using the backup cam while I rammed snow drifts. (lost a loader and a push cat off the road into the tundra). Because a backup cam sees through a white out better than the human eye.

Another true story, supporting the superiority of diesels!



Really, it's a true story, just has nothing to do with whether it was a gas or diesel.......which is the same with some stories in this thread...

ShinerBock wrote:

dodge guy wrote:


I`m also a diesel tech as well as gas engine tech. so yes from both perspectives the diesel isn't what it used to be. sure if you want 900lb feet of torque out of a 3/4 ton truck great, but it has to be able to make it back home! and as far as fuel mileage, diesel again isn't much better than gassers.

Ask any smart diesel tech what they drive? chances are its a gasser. If not, its an older and more reliable diesel.

And.... I have a fleet of over 500 gas and diesel powered vehicles with statistics and analytical data on how much we spend on them, how much down time, and our ROI. Not to mention four Ford medium duty dealerships. Not to mention oilfield customers with light and medium duty trucks like Schlumberger, Haliberton, and various others that we service. So sorry, but not sorry because you saying that gas engines don't break down(especially when used in the same duty cycle as a diesel) is a load of crock.

And no, even our best diesel techs still drive diesels along with gasers. Heck, even some race them at our local track.

Save yer breath man. We're in the gasser zone now!
My experience may be a little jaded, but it's no more ridiculous than some of these stories.
Picture it. Traveling across the tundra in a caravan. My feet freeze to the floor of the truck and so does the rest of me. 6.2 Ford gasser under my @ss.
Driving back to camp in a bad blow. Borderline phase 3. Was already supposed to have a front end loader in front of me. What truck loses its electric power steering and the rest of the electronics go nutz? You guessed it. A brand shiny new Chevy gasser!
Which truck was one of only about 8 out of 20 to make it back to camp under its own power during a 50 year Arctic storm?









A 6.7 CUMMINS mega cab!!!!!


True story btw.


No gassers were intentionally harmed in the making of this story...