Ford aluminum trucks

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this seems to have escalated beyond discussion. Dennych1 responded 90 minutes after his first post and probably left the room like we did as kids hearing our parents "discuss what are we were going to do when we grow up?".

Posting misinformation that provokes a response to correct it is trolling, no personal comments are required. An example on this thread is aluminum saving 900 lbs, and that is why they can haul their camper. No, it is not the exact quote. If you are interested reread the thread.

Kayteg1 wrote:

Ski Pro 3 wrote:
Some of these posts blowing right through sensible, going past stupid and into the dangerous territory. And some posters should come with a warning like a pack of cigarettes, because they are downright harmful.

The difference between discussion and trolling is that in discussion you bring technical opinions and facts. (they can be wrong- no question)
In trolling you make personal remarks.

I do not ascribe to your definition of 'discussion'. Saying things that can put people in harm's way goes way beyond technical opinion and into harmful.
Reader beware the opinion of anyone as fact when it comes to your well being, especially when it comes from those known to pontificate on subjects they have been proven wrong about.

Ski Pro 3 wrote:
Some of these posts blowing right through sensible, going past stupid and into the dangerous territory. And some posters should come with a warning like a pack of cigarettes, because they are downright harmful.

The difference between discussion and trolling is that in discussion you bring technical opinions and facts. (they can be wrong- no question)
In trolling you make personal remarks.

Some of these posts blowing right through sensible, going past stupid and into the dangerous territory. And some posters should come with a warning like a pack of cigarettes, because they are downright harmful.

JIMNLIN wrote:
The subject I replied about is a F350 SRW aluminum vs steel and payloads and that is what my reply refers to when you read all my reply with numbers.

Got it. My point was that GVWR isn’t necessarily the true capability. It’s the number they chose to list.

I would think the Aluminum would be more capable with a heavier frame, but Ford doesn’t address it. They seem to have numbers in mind for some other reason.

At least, I can’t see why the newer trucks don’t have at least as high of a GVWR as my truck does. It seems everything that matters like transmissions, engines, and brakes are better in new trucks than my 2010.

jimh425 wrote:

JIMNLIN wrote:
Its odd but looking at Fleet Fords body service specs doesn't show much difference in gvwr payloads/dry axle loads between a '15 vs '19 trucks.

GVWR is a “chosen” number. You have to go back to 2010 trucks to get a GVWR greater than 14000 for a pickup style Ford. My 2010 F450 has a 14500 GVWR.

The subject I replied about is a F350 SRW aluminum vs steel and payloads and that is what my reply refers to when you read all my reply with numbers.

Again?

adamis wrote:


The switch to aluminum probably did save them close to 700lbs but they probably put 200 to 300 of that back into the truck in other areas.

Did sunroofs become standard option on new trucks?
That adds few lb, just like inverters, power rear windows, cameras and radars.
Good news is that when aluminium saved lot of weight in the rear, new gadgets put load up front.
My TC has COG behind the axle and even with scaled 6500 lb load, I am still way below my rear axle rating.
In the past buyers had to go to 450/4500 or even heavier trucks to have that kind of capacity - now 350 is all you need.