Ford Explore recall.

From what I have read and seen on the news all of the complainants are when the vehicle is moving not standing still. There are a lot of complaints about this with non police vehicles also. https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2016/FORD/EXPLORER/SUV/AWD#complaints

Ford has just refused to address it.

Don

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
NOT BASHING FORD HERE. This is serious!

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ford-recall-idUSKBN1AE029

Ford Explorer was the only US sourced SUV where the warranty claims outlasted the production run in Australia. Ford Australia introduced the Terriitory a locally designed and built SUV with initially the Falcon six cylinder engine in standard and turbocharged versions, later a smaller version of the Lion diesel. Extremely popular, it outsold Toyota and Korean SUV's. Demise of local production and lack of updates killed the popularity

Lessmore wrote:

dodge guy wrote:
Ford now is ignoring the privately owned owners of the Explorers. There have been more complaints of CO and "rotten egg smell" from owners of '11 and newer explorers for years. And Ford hasn't even lifted a finger. Now one of thier largest buyers are having issues and they jump on "open holes in the body"

I have a '13 explorer and love it, it has no smell coming in. I do know of one person personally that has the "rotten egg smell" complaint, but Ford just blows them off.

They better get thier act together otherwise they are going to lose some customers. Me being one of them but for other reasons!

We came very close to buying a new 2015 Ford Explorer AWD, 3.5 non turbo V6. I think the Explorer has the best looks of any mid sized SUV out there. In the end the reason we bought another make, was due to concerns I had about Ford backing up their product. In Canada there were media reports about owners having unsatisfactory response from dealers.

Ford paint issues

Yep. And despite my screen name I have owned Fords all my life. I was a Mopar tech at a dealer for 20 years, hence the screen name. But the way Fords rot away and/or start to rot after 3 years has me in a Ram Megacab for my next truck!

dodge guy wrote:
Ford now is ignoring the privately owned owners of the Explorers. There have been more complaints of CO and "rotten egg smell" from owners of '11 and newer explorers for years. And Ford hasn't even lifted a finger. Now one of thier largest buyers are having issues and they jump on "open holes in the body"

I have a '13 explorer and love it, it has no smell coming in. I do know of one person personally that has the "rotten egg smell" complaint, but Ford just blows them off.

They better get thier act together otherwise they are going to lose some customers. Me being one of them but for other reasons!

We came very close to buying a new 2015 Ford Explorer AWD, 3.5 non turbo V6. I think the Explorer has the best looks of any mid sized SUV out there. In the end the reason we bought another make, was due to concerns I had about Ford backing up their product. In Canada there were media reports about owners having unsatisfactory response from dealers.

Ford paint issues

As with too many OEMs...wait, wait, wait...till maiming and/or deaths occur... Decisions by bean counter management...not engineering

Look up windtunnel images of vehicles and note that there is a negative zone underneath all vehicles moving through the air...that draws exhaust underneath that travels up to the front of the vehicle

Then if there is a hole somewhere and the designed in airflow metrics of all vehicle cabins will draw in that exhaust air

Now if sitting still, then another matter

Also note that rear hatch that goes down to the bumper area has to be sealed VERY WELL. After a rear end accident, mini vans are at risk of drawing in exhaust

Look up vehicle air flow in windtunnels....

Here is good one... :B




Seriously now...but couldn't find ones showing the undercarriage and that the reverse flow running backwards underneath the vehicle

Fordlover wrote:
Honestly it could be a design defect, but one wonders why it seems to affect the police units disproportionately. There are far more civilian explorers than police units on the road. Whatever the cause I hope they figure it out soon.

There are probably far more hours logged sitting in an idled vehicle in a police car versus a civilian car. A police car will probably run the entire 10 hour shift, often with the officer sitting inside, idling for long periods during traffic stops, road closures, report writing, etc.

I'm sure that has some influence on how much exhaust leaks into the cab. No production vehicle is completely sealed from exhaust entering the vehicle. Certain conditions are likely to exacerbate the problem though.

Ford now is ignoring the privately owned owners of the Explorers. There have been more complaints of CO and "rotten egg smell" from owners of '11 and newer explorers for years. And Ford hasn't even lifted a finger. Now one of thier largest buyers are having issues and they jump on "open holes in the body"

I have a '13 explorer and love it, it has no smell coming in. I do know of one person personally that has the "rotten egg smell" complaint, but Ford just blows them off.

They better get thier act together otherwise they are going to lose some customers. Me being one of them but for other reasons!

Lessmore wrote:

K Charles wrote:
It may be only serious if the police modified your explorer.

I was trying to figure that one out too. Police modifications...like drilling holes to accommodate different police items usually happens on the roof or body panels, not underneath the car so much.

Modern police package cars also generally come from the factory with much of the equipment already installed at the factory.

It does make me wonder. Think more info than provided by the article is needed.

You are kidding right?

The police explorers in our city look like they are decorated for Christmas time when they pull someone over. They have holes drilled in the tail lights, rear lift gate both above the rear window and around the license plate. The bodies end up like swiss cheese.

Just an example:



Honestly it could be a design defect, but one wonders why it seems to affect the police units disproportionately. There are far more civilian explorers than police units on the road. Whatever the cause I hope they figure it out soon.

Around me, beside the Explorers, Chevy Tahoes are used by a lot of police / emergency departments. I wonder if other SUV type vehicles have the same issues?

Me Again wrote:
I will repeat!

I am sure that sitting and idling the engine plays into this issue. Chris

:) Hi, all makes of cop cars idle all of the time and don't have this problem. For several years I spent my lunch hour in my 1996 Ford Explorer Sport. Engine running, air conditioner on, windows closed, and I even slept for most of the hour. I didn't die. There is something different with this vehicle, or what has been done to it. I'm sure Ford will find the cause and the fix for this concern.