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Perrysburg_Dodg
Apr 30, 2018Explorer
Well I was told mid summer MY 2019, that would be this summer and the Jeep Wangler is getting the Ecodiesel for Wangler MY 2018 again this summer. I think maybe what is confusing is the Ram is now being sold as a 2019 MY not a 2018. Never understood manufactures doing this. If you are going to launch a new platform mid year call it a 2018-1/2 not a 2019. Well if the Ecodiesel is not coming out until mid summer of 2019 we will find out soon.
As for the Ford not being able to pass at highway speeds. I just picked up the boat Sunday. It is a 24' Larson that weighs in at 6800# boat, trailer and full of fuel (55 gal.). I tried to do a video towing it but could not figure out how to live stream it. Bottom line the Ram is running a 8 speed trans and the Ford has a 10 speed. With all of those gears these little diesels do not have any problems passing. At 65 mph I put the go peddle to the floor and before I was half way around a big truck I was at 82 mph. This is with a 8 speed the 10 speed will or should do as good.
Lets talk about the 10 speed now. FCA is running a 9speed in our cars. The number one complaint with them (and all others running a 9 speed) is they will not hold the top two gears. Customers complain that the transmission keeps "hunting for the right gear". To maintain the top gear you have to be running over 70 mph. The highest "normal" speed limit on a Federal highway is 70 mph. So if you do get the car to shift into the top gear any slight incline will have the trans dropping two of three gears to maintain speed. I can't help but wounder how Ford and GM have worked around this! ZF and FCA have been building the 9 speed for sometime now but it took a bit to workout the shifting patterns to keep the customer happy. With a 10 speed this is going to be even harder. I bet that is the main reason ZF is refusing to go above 9 speeds. The little fuel mileage bump is not worth the headache in keeping the customer happy.
Don
As for the Ford not being able to pass at highway speeds. I just picked up the boat Sunday. It is a 24' Larson that weighs in at 6800# boat, trailer and full of fuel (55 gal.). I tried to do a video towing it but could not figure out how to live stream it. Bottom line the Ram is running a 8 speed trans and the Ford has a 10 speed. With all of those gears these little diesels do not have any problems passing. At 65 mph I put the go peddle to the floor and before I was half way around a big truck I was at 82 mph. This is with a 8 speed the 10 speed will or should do as good.
Lets talk about the 10 speed now. FCA is running a 9speed in our cars. The number one complaint with them (and all others running a 9 speed) is they will not hold the top two gears. Customers complain that the transmission keeps "hunting for the right gear". To maintain the top gear you have to be running over 70 mph. The highest "normal" speed limit on a Federal highway is 70 mph. So if you do get the car to shift into the top gear any slight incline will have the trans dropping two of three gears to maintain speed. I can't help but wounder how Ford and GM have worked around this! ZF and FCA have been building the 9 speed for sometime now but it took a bit to workout the shifting patterns to keep the customer happy. With a 10 speed this is going to be even harder. I bet that is the main reason ZF is refusing to go above 9 speeds. The little fuel mileage bump is not worth the headache in keeping the customer happy.
Don
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