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- Niche market indeed. It's still a half ton and even with impressive torque figures I'd hesitate to tow a 7k lb camper with it. I also wonder if you have to pull the cab off the truck to do any engine work on it.
Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
If Ford gets it right they will sell a ton of them. No mater what some of you say, a gas verses diesel engine in the same vehicle will always have the diesel out in front in the MPG benchmark. My little 3.0 can make 32 mpg all day long and at 77 mph it makes 27.8 mpg. The Ecoboost can't come anywhere close to that at the same speeds. Now if diesel jumps to a buck or more then gas than your savings are equal but the towing still goes to the diesel.
My guess is Ford will end up over pricing it and that would be the only thing that would keep them from selling a ton of them.
Don
No matter what some say, at 40 to 50 cents per gallon more for fuel, even with the better mpg you'll need to go quite a few miles, tens of thousands yearly, before reaching the break even point. That's without even factoring in the upfront increased hard cost which there will be. May work for some, not for most, because 95% or more of the average Joe's out there never tow anything. Niche market. Most fleet buyers will still go with the F250 or 350. One thing I would never do is buy the first model year produced, and maybe the 2nd, that's with Ford or anyone else. I'm sure Ford will get it right, but I for one have been a member of their testing and R&D department before unvoluntarily, as well as GM a few times, and never will again.
If your towing often, why one would not go with the beefier, everything from brakes to frame, and full floater, that you get with the heavier diesel truck. Even if you are towing a lighter, smaller rig, than you get with a glorified 1/2 ton. But it's not my money. Whatever floats it for you.- If Ford gets it right they will sell a ton of them. No mater what some of you say, a gas verses diesel engine in the same vehicle will always have the diesel out in front in the MPG benchmark. My little 3.0 can make 32 mpg all day long and at 77 mph it makes 27.8 mpg. The Ecoboost can't come anywhere close to that at the same speeds. Now if diesel jumps to a buck or more then gas than your savings are equal but the towing still goes to the diesel.
My guess is Ford will end up over pricing it and that would be the only thing that would keep them from selling a ton of them.
Don - I doubt it will be a huge seller in areas of the country where diesel fuel runs 40 to 50 cents more per gallon than gas, no matter what the overall fluctuations are with oil. The elected crooks set the mileage benchmarks, then shoot themselves in the foot regulating markets with silly rules that inflate the prices.
Lynnmor wrote:
What is impressive is that a company can hang a meaningless word like “Powerstroke” on any Diesel engine and then have people repeat that word over and over.
Or “Hemi” on a gas engine....larry barnhart wrote:
Lynnmor wrote:
What is impressive is that a company can hang a meaningless word like “Powerstroke” on any Diesel engine and then have people repeat that word over and over.
Kinda like the hemi or triton or vortex. Folks are fooled so easy with names or numbers.
chevman
It just a name, no fooling going on. I don’t understand what you are saying.Lynnmor wrote:
What is impressive is that a company can hang a meaningless word like “Powerstroke” on any Diesel engine and then have people repeat that word over and over.
Kinda like the hemi or triton or vortex. Folks are fooled so easy with names or numbers.
chevman- What is impressive is that a company can hang a meaningless word like “Powerstroke” on any Diesel engine and then have people repeat that word over and over.
kw/00 wrote:
With that much power and a potential payload of 2020 lbs, it may not be that bad of a truck. Its impressive to see a 3.0 diesel hitting those figures. I am curious what the new GM diesel numbers will be....
Expect GM's to be best in class HP and Torque- With that much power and a potential payload of 2020 lbs, it may not be that bad of a truck. Its impressive to see a 3.0 diesel hitting those figures. I am curious what the new GM diesel numbers will be....
