Ford posts videos of winter testing of their Electric F150.

RobWNY wrote:
I'm not against developing Electric cars and trucks but I don't think the industry is quite where it needs to be to be fully committed by 2035. Electric Cars and pickup trucks are one thing. Even that is a huge undertaking to get it accomplished without infrastructure problems in such a short period of time. But Electric Tractor Trailers for cross Country hauling, Electric Jets for Trans-Atlantic flights and electric Rockets for Space exploration is still decades away. How would the Amish people survive? They aren't going to change their religious beliefs easily. They use battery powered equipment but use generators with gas/diesel engines to replenish those batteries. The Amish are one of the fastest growing populations in America so eventually it will happen but not in the next 15 years.

Many predict the transition will take about 3 decades so that sounds about right. Are Amish opposed to solar or wind generation?

I'm not against developing Electric cars and trucks but I don't think the industry is quite where it needs to be to be fully committed by 2035. Electric Cars and pickup trucks are one thing. Even that is a huge undertaking to get it accomplished without infrastructure problems in such a short period of time. But Electric Tractor Trailers for cross Country hauling, Electric Jets for Trans-Atlantic flights and electric Rockets for Space exploration is still decades away. How would the Amish people survive? They aren't going to change their religious beliefs easily. They use battery powered equipment but use generators with gas/diesel engines to replenish those batteries. The Amish are one of the fastest growing populations in America so eventually it will happen but not in the next 15 years.

pigman1 wrote:

Why. You don’t think that engine blocks, transmissions, exhaust systems, catalytic converters and, you know, oil take anything out of the ground?

And how much power do you think EV’s use. 6 to 8 kw covers the average North American or European commute. Power companies plan for 1/2 to 1 percent per year increase over the next three decades to cover power needs.

Just sayin.



The key word here is COMMUTE. When you start talking about 600-700 miles a day pulling or carrying a max load you're in a whole new arena. Add that to the fact that California can't even keep the lights on TODAY, let alone with millions of EV's plugged in. And are all the Holiday Inn's and other hotels are going to be happy putting in 100 or more charging stations in their parking lots to take care of their overnight guests? An idea who's time has NOT come. Call me in 50 years.

Nope. The power companies have already done the math. They are not concerned.

I think you may be talking about a US centric point of view on power issues or grid problems. EV adaptation is low in the US. Other countries with much higher adaptation rates are not having difficulty adapting.

Hotels are already adding charge stations. They are cheap and attract clients. Good for business. For us if the hotel has an available destination charger, has a continental breakfast and takes an 8 pound chihuahua we are in. :).

Why. You don’t think that engine blocks, transmissions, exhaust systems, catalytic converters and, you know, oil take anything out of the ground?

And how much power do you think EV’s use. 6 to 8 kw covers the average North American or European commute. Power companies plan for 1/2 to 1 percent per year increase over the next three decades to cover power needs.

Just sayin.



The key word here is COMMUTE. When you start talking about 600-700 miles a day pulling or carrying a max load you're in a whole new arena. Add that to the fact that California can't even keep the lights on TODAY, let alone with millions of EV's plugged in. And are all the Holiday Inn's and other hotels are going to be happy putting in 100 or more charging stations in their parking lots to take care of their overnight guests? An idea who's time has NOT come. Call me in 50 years.

Lynnmor wrote:

gbopp wrote:

ppine wrote:
I predict they will become very popular when the battery technology increases their range and we have sufficient charging stations.

Electric cars were common in the early 1900's. I often wonder where we would be if back then they would have pushed battery technology like they did the internal combustion engine.

My guess that many mountains would have been leveled to provide the minerals for the batteries and motors, and there would be power plants every block.

Why. You don’t think that engine blocks, transmissions, exhaust systems, catalytic converters and, you know, oil take anything out of the ground?

And how much power do you think EV’s use. 6 to 8 kw covers the average North American or European commute. Power companies plan for 1/2 to 1 percent per year increase over the next three decades to cover power needs.

Just sayin.

With Fords all-in commitment to be 100% electric by 2035, it makes me wonder how soon they and other manufacturers will start phasing out Gas and Diesel options. It won't be all electric overnight so I imagine for people that prefer to stay with Gas or Diesel, it will become increasingly difficult to find the vehicle you want the closer to 2035 it is.

gbopp wrote:

ppine wrote:
I predict they will become very popular when the battery technology increases their range and we have sufficient charging stations.

Electric cars were common in the early 1900's. I often wonder where we would be if back then they would have pushed battery technology like they did the internal combustion engine.

My guess that many mountains would have been leveled to provide the minerals for the batteries and motors, and there would be power plants every block.

ppine wrote:
I predict they will become very popular when the battery technology increases their range and we have sufficient charging stations.

Electric cars were common in the early 1900's. I often wonder where we would be if back then they would have pushed battery technology like they did the internal combustion engine.

Another step on the road to electrifying America.

Many trucks will have motors on all 4 wheels.
They can tow a lot.
The range keeps increasing.
They require little maintenance.
I predict they will become very popular when the battery technology increases their range and we have sufficient charging stations.