pigman1 wrote:
Oh, so not only will the government mandate that I need to drive an electric vehicle, it'll tell me when I can recharge it. ie: got home from work and plugged in, but my charger won't work until 5-7AM. Need a loaf of bread? Too bad no charge, so walk. Have to get to the ER because I cut my hand? Too bad . . . Wrap it up, no power, no car.
Yeah, that'll work real well. Uh-huh!
pigman1 wrote:Reisender wrote:Exaggeration??? Of course it is, but you tell me how you control when charging is mandated in low demand times? Rules? Yeah that'll work, ha ha, everyone always follows the rules. Timers? Everyone has different needs and who coordinates that?? California has rolling brownouts now, remember. Just a whole new bureaucracy to schedule things. Full of GS employees? Yeah, the government works efficiently now, right? Ideas are great and cheap, Tell me the details on how it works. We can't even pass a Covid relief bill.pigman1 wrote:valhalla360 wrote:Oh, so not only will the government mandate that I need to drive an electric vehicle, it'll tell me when I can recharge it. ie: got home from work and plugged in, but my charger won't work until 5-7AM. Need a loaf of bread? Too bad no charge, so walk. Have to get to the ER because I cut my hand? Too bad . . . Wrap it up, no power, no car.
PS: when we talk about electricity production there is good and bad with EVs. Actual production will need to increase but production facilities (power plants) may not need to expand as much. Much can be done by charging when demand is low increasing the utilization of the power plants. For most practical purposes solar/wind are just a different type of power plant...though currently causing a lot of issues to the grid. Widespread EVs can mitigate that to a large degree because they can absorb excess demand when it's a sunny/windy day. In the long run, if those vehicles can feed back power into the grid, it could even drop the baseline power plant capability needed.
Yeah, that'll work real well. Uh-huh!
Too funny. Exaggerate much? What your describing happens no where. And there is no reason to believe it ever will.
I see various government mandates to end tail pipe sales on light vehicles as closing the barn door after the horses are out. In 20 years no one is going to want to buy a clunky old stinky, high maintenance, low performance car or truck that runs on gas and that you can’t fill up at home.
pigman1 wrote:Reisender wrote:Exaggeration??? Of course it is, but you tell me how you control when charging is mandated in low demand times? Rules? Yeah that'll work, ha ha, everyone always follows the rules. Timers? Everyone has different needs and who coordinates that?? California has rolling brownouts now, remember. Just a whole new bureaucracy to schedule things. Full of GS employees? Yeah, the government works efficiently now, right? Ideas are great and cheap, Tell me the details on how it works. We can't even pass a Covid relief bill.pigman1 wrote:valhalla360 wrote:Oh, so not only will the government mandate that I need to drive an electric vehicle, it'll tell me when I can recharge it. ie: got home from work and plugged in, but my charger won't work until 5-7AM. Need a loaf of bread? Too bad no charge, so walk. Have to get to the ER because I cut my hand? Too bad . . . Wrap it up, no power, no car.
PS: when we talk about electricity production there is good and bad with EVs. Actual production will need to increase but production facilities (power plants) may not need to expand as much. Much can be done by charging when demand is low increasing the utilization of the power plants. For most practical purposes solar/wind are just a different type of power plant...though currently causing a lot of issues to the grid. Widespread EVs can mitigate that to a large degree because they can absorb excess demand when it's a sunny/windy day. In the long run, if those vehicles can feed back power into the grid, it could even drop the baseline power plant capability needed.
Yeah, that'll work real well. Uh-huh!
Too funny. Exaggerate much? What your describing happens no where. And there is no reason to believe it ever will.
I see various government mandates to end tail pipe sales on light vehicles as closing the barn door after the horses are out. In 20 years no one is going to want to buy a clunky old stinky, high maintenance, low performance car or truck that runs on gas and that you can’t fill up at home.
Reisender wrote:pigman1 wrote:valhalla360 wrote:Oh, so not only will the government mandate that I need to drive an electric vehicle, it'll tell me when I can recharge it. ie: got home from work and plugged in, but my charger won't work until 5-7AM. Need a loaf of bread? Too bad no charge, so walk. Have to get to the ER because I cut my hand? Too bad . . . Wrap it up, no power, no car.
PS: when we talk about electricity production there is good and bad with EVs. Actual production will need to increase but production facilities (power plants) may not need to expand as much. Much can be done by charging when demand is low increasing the utilization of the power plants. For most practical purposes solar/wind are just a different type of power plant...though currently causing a lot of issues to the grid. Widespread EVs can mitigate that to a large degree because they can absorb excess demand when it's a sunny/windy day. In the long run, if those vehicles can feed back power into the grid, it could even drop the baseline power plant capability needed.
Yeah, that'll work real well. Uh-huh!
Too funny. Exaggerate much? What your describing happens no where. And there is no reason to believe it ever will.
I see various government mandates to end tail pipe sales on light vehicles as closing the barn door after the horses are out. In 20 years no one is going to want to buy a clunky old stinky, high maintenance, low performance car or truck that runs on gas and that you can’t fill up at home.
Reisender wrote:Exaggeration??? Of course it is, but you tell me how you control when charging is mandated in low demand times? Rules? Yeah that'll work, ha ha, everyone always follows the rules. Timers? Everyone has different needs and who coordinates that?? California has rolling brownouts now, remember. Just a whole new bureaucracy to schedule things. Full of GS employees? Yeah, the government works efficiently now, right? Ideas are great and cheap, Tell me the details on how it works. We can't even pass a Covid relief bill.pigman1 wrote:valhalla360 wrote:Oh, so not only will the government mandate that I need to drive an electric vehicle, it'll tell me when I can recharge it. ie: got home from work and plugged in, but my charger won't work until 5-7AM. Need a loaf of bread? Too bad no charge, so walk. Have to get to the ER because I cut my hand? Too bad . . . Wrap it up, no power, no car.
PS: when we talk about electricity production there is good and bad with EVs. Actual production will need to increase but production facilities (power plants) may not need to expand as much. Much can be done by charging when demand is low increasing the utilization of the power plants. For most practical purposes solar/wind are just a different type of power plant...though currently causing a lot of issues to the grid. Widespread EVs can mitigate that to a large degree because they can absorb excess demand when it's a sunny/windy day. In the long run, if those vehicles can feed back power into the grid, it could even drop the baseline power plant capability needed.
Yeah, that'll work real well. Uh-huh!
Too funny. Exaggerate much? What your describing happens no where. And there is no reason to believe it ever will.
I see various government mandates to end tail pipe sales on light vehicles as closing the barn door after the horses are out. In 20 years no one is going to want to buy a clunky old stinky, high maintenance, low performance car or truck that runs on gas and that you can’t fill up at home.
pigman1 wrote:valhalla360 wrote:Oh, so not only will the government mandate that I need to drive an electric vehicle, it'll tell me when I can recharge it. ie: got home from work and plugged in, but my charger won't work until 5-7AM. Need a loaf of bread? Too bad no charge, so walk. Have to get to the ER because I cut my hand? Too bad . . . Wrap it up, no power, no car.
PS: when we talk about electricity production there is good and bad with EVs. Actual production will need to increase but production facilities (power plants) may not need to expand as much. Much can be done by charging when demand is low increasing the utilization of the power plants. For most practical purposes solar/wind are just a different type of power plant...though currently causing a lot of issues to the grid. Widespread EVs can mitigate that to a large degree because they can absorb excess demand when it's a sunny/windy day. In the long run, if those vehicles can feed back power into the grid, it could even drop the baseline power plant capability needed.
Yeah, that'll work real well. Uh-huh!
valhalla360 wrote:Oh, so not only will the government mandate that I need to drive an electric vehicle, it'll tell me when I can recharge it. ie: got home from work and plugged in, but my charger won't work until 5-7AM. Need a loaf of bread? Too bad no charge, so walk. Have to get to the ER because I cut my hand? Too bad . . . Wrap it up, no power, no car.
PS: when we talk about electricity production there is good and bad with EVs. Actual production will need to increase but production facilities (power plants) may not need to expand as much. Much can be done by charging when demand is low increasing the utilization of the power plants. For most practical purposes solar/wind are just a different type of power plant...though currently causing a lot of issues to the grid. Widespread EVs can mitigate that to a large degree because they can absorb excess demand when it's a sunny/windy day. In the long run, if those vehicles can feed back power into the grid, it could even drop the baseline power plant capability needed.
PS: when we talk about electricity production there is good and bad with EVs. Actual production will need to increase but production facilities (power plants) may not need to expand as much. Much can be done by charging when demand is low increasing the utilization of the power plants. For most practical purposes solar/wind are just a different type of power plant...though currently causing a lot of issues to the grid. Widespread EVs can mitigate that to a large degree because they can absorb excess demand when it's a sunny/windy day. In the long run, if those vehicles can feed back power into the grid, it could even drop the baseline power plant capability needed.
