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Funny Troy your the only guy saying that. I did a Google search and could not come up with anything about "lifter noise" for 1992 Rams. Heck Edmunds.com gives the 1992 Ram 150,250 and 350 four stars same as the ford trucks. Don't you think if they were the POS you say they were they would have a lower rating the Fords? :h Or maybe Fords are just as bad! :B

Don

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
Troy having worked in an engine plant I can tell you that had a 318/5.2 or any other engine for that mater left with lifter noise the Plant would have been notefid. Also if the assembly plant noticed it they would not ship it! Fact not fiction Troy. The early 5.7 Hemi had a TSB for lifter noise but that's the only one I know of.

Talk about "lame posts".:R

Don

Don,
Having cold started many new 318's and a few 360's and hearing lifter tick was the norm on these new trucks, so I can't say much about your Quality Control program at that factory! Perhaps this was an issue with trucks not broken in?

Hate to bust your bubble! :W

Troy having worked in an engine plant I can tell you that had a 318/5.2 or any other engine for that mater left with lifter noise the Plant would have been notefid. Also if the assembly plant noticed it they would not ship it! Fact not fiction Troy. The early 5.7 Hemi had a TSB for lifter noise but that's the only one I know of.

Talk about "lame posts".:R

Don

FishOnOne wrote:

catfishmontana wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
And yet the sheep still keep drinking the Blue Cool-Aid and are happy about it :h .But then it did take this sheep four times, five if you count the junk 1992 replacement truck before I left Ford. Bha Bha little sheep.

Don

So are you saying the Dodge RAM trucks were better in '92? I remember having to move those Dodge RAM trucks around on the dealer lot back in '88 and it took a couple of minutes for the lifters to stop ticking after a cold start. Those 318's were some real pieces of work I might say!

In addition moving the Chevy's and GMC's didn't have the lifter ticking issue like the Dodges. :h

I don't remember those roller cam/lifters making much noise in those 318's. In fact, most Mopar valve trains were fairly quiet when new. Not only were they rollered during that year, but they also still maintained the shaft mount rocker setup. If my memory serves me correctly, pretty quiet. I still have a half dozen or so LA small blocks and race with them during the summer months. Even the high mileage ones are pretty quiet.

These were brand new trucks Dodge trucks sitting on a grass lot that I would move ~ 1/week in order to mow that lot. Every Dodge truck would litterly tick for a couple of minutes during the cold start. This was during the summer months in Texas.

Also I do recall Chevy had a batch of bad cams in '82 that would go flat a cause poor performance.

Interesting. Must have taken a while for the lifters to pump up.

catfishmontana wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
And yet the sheep still keep drinking the Blue Cool-Aid and are happy about it :h .But then it did take this sheep four times, five if you count the junk 1992 replacement truck before I left Ford. Bha Bha little sheep.

Don

So are you saying the Dodge RAM trucks were better in '92? I remember having to move those Dodge RAM trucks around on the dealer lot back in '88 and it took a couple of minutes for the lifters to stop ticking after a cold start. Those 318's were some real pieces of work I might say!

In addition moving the Chevy's and GMC's didn't have the lifter ticking issue like the Dodges. :h

I don't remember those roller cam/lifters making much noise in those 318's. In fact, most Mopar valve trains were fairly quiet when new. Not only were they rollered during that year, but they also still maintained the shaft mount rocker setup. If my memory serves me correctly, pretty quiet. I still have a half dozen or so LA small blocks and race with them during the summer months. Even the high mileage ones are pretty quiet.

These were brand new Dodge trucks sitting on a grass lot that I would move ~ 1/week in order to mow that lot. Every Dodge truck would litterly tick for a couple of minutes during the cold start. This was during the summer months in Texas.

Also I do recall Chevy had a batch of bad cams in '82 that would go flat a cause poor performance.

back in the day we changed camshafts in chevys like you change your socks....never a cam in a mopar though. That 318 started as a 273 to 318 to 340 ( a monster motor) and finally a 360...a hell of a run.

FishOnOne wrote:

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
And yet the sheep still keep drinking the Blue Cool-Aid and are happy about it :h .But then it did take this sheep four times, five if you count the junk 1992 replacement truck before I left Ford. Bha Bha little sheep.

Don

So are you saying the Dodge RAM trucks were better in '92? I remember having to move those Dodge RAM trucks around on the dealer lot back in '88 and it took a couple of minutes for the lifters to stop ticking after a cold start. Those 318's were some real pieces of work I might say!

In addition moving the Chevy's and GMC's didn't have the lifter ticking issue like the Dodges. :h

I don't remember those roller cam/lifters making much noise in those 318's. In fact, most Mopar valve trains were fairly quiet when new. Not only were they rollered during that year, but they also still maintained the shaft mount rocker setup. If my memory serves me correctly, pretty quiet. I still have a half dozen or so LA small blocks and race with them during the summer months. Even the high mileage ones are pretty quiet.

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
Tory please tell me you don't think a Quadra-Jet is better then a Carter AFB? I rebuilt far more Q-jets then AFB's in the day! Lets not even talk about Holley carbs! I could rebuild a Holley in my sleep! There was always a rebuild kit for the 2 barrel in my garage.

Have to say the Q-Jet sounded the best, if you flipped the air clear lid up side down! You did have to unscrew the bolt to get the wing nut back on though.

Don

For a street carb, the only one that will match a Q-jet is a ThermoQuad.

FishOnOne wrote:

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
Funny thing about that 5.2 Magnum (318) in my 92 Dodge Dakota, it would spank those 5.0/302 Tangs all day long.

BTW it never had any lifter noise and never heard anyone complain about the 5.2/318 but it's your story Tory.

Don

My '71 Chevelle would spank any Mustang or any Chrysler product with those Carter carbs.

No big deal! :C

I think not.



Two Carters, no waiting! :D

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
Tory please tell me you don't think a Quadra-Jet is better then a Carter AFB? I rebuilt far more Q-jets then AFB's in the day! Lets not even talk about Holley carbs! I could rebuild a Holley in my sleep! There was always a rebuild kit for the 2 barrel in my garage.

Have to say the Q-Jet sounded the best, if you flipped the air clear lid up side down! You did have to unscrew the bolt to get the wing nut back on though.

Don

Don,
I would take a Quadra Jet carb or a Holley carb any day of the week over a Carter. You can add Autolite to the list right next to Carter. :W