Forum Discussion
manley wrote:
People with the 2.7 REALLY need to look at their door stickers, as most of those trucks weigh less than 5k and have very low GVWRs.
So what? Payload is calculated as GVWR less empty weight. My GVWR is 6,500 and my payload is over 1,500 pounds. That means my truck weighs less than 5,000 pounds. That lighter weight helps with fuel efficiency and handling and braking.manley wrote:
An absolutely useless test. People with the 2.7 REALLY need to look at their door stickers, as most of those trucks weigh less than 5k and have very low GVWRs.
And what are they looking for? My brother loves his truck equipped with a 2.7 and 2wd. It gives much better mileage than his old Ranger did with more power and comfort. Yet it still pulls my 21' boat with no issues while returning about the same mileage as an F250 diesel. He has had it two years and it exceeds his expectations.
The 2.7 can be ordered with max payload package if you are worried about GVWR. The only thing it doesn't offer within its ratings is that infamous "V8 Sound".- An absolutely useless test. People with the 2.7 REALLY need to look at their door stickers, as most of those trucks weigh less than 5k and have very low GVWRs.
Durb wrote:
I wonder if the diesel has traction control when in 2WD to keep it from smoking the tires, a safety feature.
There was a traction control button in the 2019 diesel that I just tested. I couldn't tell any difference with the button on or off. It just felt like turbo lag to me. Towing it seemed like the power really came on with the shift to 2nd gear but in one bobtail run I did notice a power surge right before the shift to 2nd. I couldn't get the diesel to spin its tires in 2wd even bobtail with some moderated brake checking so I didn't bother with 4wd. When it caught 2nd it was a whole different engine though.- You would think that folks that do nothing but test trucks would understand that the large diesels use torque management to lessen the load on the drive train. Maybe they wouldn't have such a puzzled look on their faces if they took the time to read up on how the trucks actually work. Ford cuts the power in the first three of six gears, so of course performance is lower than expected in a typical standing start drag race.
- They talked about turning off stability/traction control in the first race. My RAM has a button for that.
Durb wrote:
I wonder if the diesel has traction control when in 2WD to keep it from smoking the tires, a safety feature.
That's what I'm thinking... The traction control system will back off the power when traction is lost, but when in 4WD the tires don't loose traction and traction control doesn't take over.- I'm impressed with all of them.
Haven't heard or read much about the 2.7L but it really scooted!
I haven't driven a 5.0L truck but did a then new 2015 F250 6.7L and my FIL 2011 F150 Ecoboost each about 10k miles both empty and towing trailers and they both impressed me compared to my tuned/deleted 6.0L that was sold. And to think that what I drove had less gears and power than these 2019 versions so I know they are both stout tow vehicles.
I also wonder why not the 3.5L Ecoboost too? - I don't really care how fast my truck can get from point A to point B compared to another.. That's not how I drive my truck on a day to day basis nor how I drive it while towing..
Sure, it makes for some good fireside talk and all.. Why didn't they have a 3.5 Eco in the mix?? Humm... Probably would have spanked all of them! ha, ha!
I do like a good V8 rumble.. But, I've had that and I've had this 3.5 Eco and I can say that I'll take my Eco over that V8 sound while towing..
If I need that V8 sound again, I'll get a V8 Muscle car and be more than happy..
For my truck, I'd take the Diesel if I was towing really heavy.. I'm not, so no need for a Diesel in my life..
Get what you want and need and enjoy it..
Mitch - They mentioned one thing I have noticed. Between 30 and 80 mph, not much can get away from a bob tailed 6.7. You can watch eyeballs look back at the big blue football and wonder why they cannot walk away on on-ramps. Lotsa fun! I am sure the D'max and Cummings are the same. Come on admit it hanging onto the tails of Chargers and Vetts is fun, even though it is just for a few seconds.
