Fords 6.7 Scorpion Diesel motor

blofgren wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

The Mad Norsky wrote:

agesilaus wrote:
I have no idea what happened in Ricatic's case. But we are hearing only one side of the issue. I'm not saying that he is wrong but that we just don't know. I followed it as it was posted here. But I have not heard many others saying they had the same problem. There was a period when some people reported problems but since then I don't recall hearing any. Maybe Ford started dealing better with the issue.

Like most others here I haven't had any major problems, the truck just went over 50K about half of that was towing our 5ver.

Would it help you to know that Ricatic is NOT the only member here on the forum to have his 6.7L Ford fuel pump destroy itself?????

There is another. I private messaged this individual. Ford, as with Ricatic, first attempted to deny this fellow warranty coverage. Claiming contaminated fuel, rust and so on.

But this one got lucky. He had an ace in the hole. Seems just before his debacle with Ford, he had taken his vehicle into the Ford dealership and had both fuel filters changed.

Since it was found on the Ford service records, they had painted themselves into a corner. So they in fact warranted this failure.

Mind you, this is a terrible ratio to have from the very small number of folks who post here to have two documented failures.

And this second subject was Canadian, running mostly if not all the better lubricity quality Canadian diesel fuel.

Despite all this, I remain convinced that if, IF Ford and Bosch have solved the CP 4.2 fuel pump problems in the latest (2015) and forward versions of the motor, it will be an excellent motor.

There IS supposed to be a difference in the fuel pumps in the 2015's, exactly what I do not know.

I know NHTSA has become involved with the VW and Bosch CP 4.1 pump. My fear is that someday we are going to hear about someone's Ford stalling while in the on ramp of a freeway and an 80,000 pound semi going right through their tailgate. It surely could happen, as it appears there is absolutely no warning of this about to happen until your motor stalls and your CEL light on the dash comes on.

Oh, and some may have noticed, but I no longer own my 6.7L Ford diesel. No problems, but I surely have a little more piece of mind driving around the country far from home now.

Just because a dealer changed a fuel filter doesn't mean a thing and doesn't offer nothing.

A couple of years ago I helped out two couples on two different occasions stranded on I10 and one of those couples was on the lower part of a curve which was a very bad place to be stranded on a fast paced highway.

BTW... Those two trucks were RAM 6.7 cummins. I would hope no one, especially a older couple not knowing what to do get in a bad spot. I suppose their peace of mind was to unload those trucks but who knows.

Ricatic's case is well known both here and on the Ford forums. He has provided enough facts and insight regarding his ordeal with his Ford 6.7L that makes me and most others believe it beyond a reasonable doubt. In fact it played a part in me not buying a Ford 6.7L and rather the Ram with the much more reliable CP3 pump. If Ricatic's truck had continued to be reliable as it was at the start and he continued to post glowing reviews of it as he had, chances are I too would now be in a 6.7L Super Duty. He was definitely a huge promoter of his Ford product on here and I was as well having owned 3 over the past 20 years.

There have been so many documented failures of CP4 pumps in all vehicles using them including Ford, GM, VW, etc. that one would have to be either living in a cave or completely having their head in the sand not to believe that there is something to it. I intend on keeping my truck for many years and having this doubt on reliability was not a chance I was willing to take. And the HPFP aside, one simply does not read nearly as many major engine issues with a 2011 or newer Cummins or Duramax as what is seen with the Ford 6.7L.

Fish, I understand that you love your 6.7L Super Duty and I truly commend you on that and I hope that the reliability of it continues for you. However, your constant attempts to promote Ford and bash Ram is becoming a little old and pathetic. Care to post what stranded these 2 poor older couples with their 6.7L Rams?

One truck lost boost and simply limped over to a safe point to get literally off the road. The other truck just quit on them are were forced to pull over in a real bad spot on the interstate. I took both to Holiday World were those good folks took care of them.

A 3rd one was a RAM that was pulling a gooseneck had to ditch their truck at Bass Pro Shops that was spewing out antifreeze. Either head gasket or EGR failure.

Not bashing but simply providing facts from what I've seen or what hits my wallet and our 05 Dodge was a nickel and dimer without a doubt. I've yet to see a Duramax or a Power Stroke stranded on the interstate to date, but I know it happens.

BTW... I purchased my Super Duty after Ricks ordeal. The '12 RAM with it's ride, slow to build power, and lack of DEF/poor fuel economy was the show stoppers.

In addition you can't always quantify the failures by reading the internet forums without considering the number of Duramax, Cummins and Power Strokes that have been sold (I.E. 12/12 Cummins produced 2 million engines for RAM since '89. One year of the 6.7 Power Stroke they produced .5 million). In addition my cousin has been a long time Ford diesel tech and has now been working on cummins/RAMs for a couple of years since the Ford shop repairs has slowed waaaay down. I'll get more updates from him on Christmas as we like to discuss diesel powered trucks and stuff. :B