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FishOnOne
Dec 16, 2014Nomad
blofgren wrote:FishOnOne wrote:blofgren wrote:The Mad Norsky wrote:
1Longbow:
here is one more for your viewing pleasure. Comes from YouTube, PowerStroke help guy. He finally gets his hand on a 6.7L Scorpion engine.
Some insightful comments made during the video. He also covers the main bearings, and their lack of keying to hold them in place, as mentioned by a previous poster.
Link: PowerStroke help critiques the 6.7L Scorpion motor
Good god this video is an eye opener. The 6.7L is a definite improvement over the 6.0L and 6.4L but still a lot of inherent design issues. I think my jaw dropped when he stated that Ford fixed the front cover design by making it leak coolant externally rather than internally when cavitation wears through the cover. How about fixing the cavitation problem to begin with? This type of thing is exactly why I did not buy another Ford; buy a truck with inherent design issues. Maybe they will rear their ugly head while the truck is on warranty and you can go and fight with Ford about getting warranty coverage. OR, maybe they will rear their ugly head after the warranty is up and the owner is on the hook for a big repair bill. No thank you.
Thanks for the video; I am feeling even better about my choice to buy the Cummins now!
You my friend are the blind leading the blind... How do you know Ford has a cavitation problem with the water pumps on the 6.7 PSD? Because Bill said so? :S
Enjoy your tractor engine... :W (According to Gale Banks and not me!)
I would say the fact that there is a formal procedure for checking coolant pH and a maintenance reminder that pops up on the information screen points to there still being an issue/risk of cavitation. I remember having to check for additive in the coolant of my 1996 7.3L; and this maintenance requirement is still there almost 20 years later!
I don't think that it can be denied that the 6.7L is a bit of a high maintenance engine with some serious inherent design flaws. The fact that there are so many changes to the 2015 version proves it. Hopefully Ford got it right this time and don't leave owners with super pricy repair bills like I'm sure many of the earlier versions will.
Trust me, I was a true Ford man inside and out before buying my current truck. My grandfather was the sales manager for 25 years at a Ford dealer on the Canadian prairies and my large extended family drove nothing but Fords (all different types of cars and trucks and many of them) for many years including 3 Ford trucks myself. My last truck was a 6.0L and I defended them for years including spending several thousand dollars in bulletproofing it. Then I needed a truck with a bigger cab and found that even with a 6.0L with decent reliability I was going to get hosed on resale, and I did. I researched the Ford 6.7L extensively and read common threads of HPFP failures, valve failures, and turbo failures and decided that I really did not want to be in this boat again so I decided to try a different route.
And, I most certainly will continue to enjoy my tractor engine (with no coolant testing requirement!) ;)
Trust me I was a GM man from a GM family. I purchase and use trucks for personal use to farm and ranch use. Day in and day out our Ford trucks just hold up better with less overall repairs.
I'll continue to use the trucks that provide the most economical solution to our overhead and from time to time we try different brands from different years. My BIL had a 09 6.7 cummins and had to unload it after 9 months of nothing but trouble with the turbo and DPF clogging to a 05 Dodge Cummins I purchase used that was always in need of a repair. Now granted these trucks are used in some pretty harsh environments including pulling some massive fertilizer tanks off road and cattle trailers, but day in and day out the Ford trucks always hold up better and cost less to operate.
The second gen 6.7 was a power upgrade. My current '12 truck with 58k miles receives oil changes every 5.5k miles, fuel filter every 23k miles for maintenance and replacement parts have been a set of tires, windshield wipers and shocks.
ELC coolant testing is not a bad idea, especially for people who take their truck to a quick lube that has people who like to top of the coolant and most likely will top off with the wrong type. The contamination tests is to test for contaminants that has nothing to do with the testing you did for your 7.3 PSD. I have not tested my coolant to date and don't need to.
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