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blt2ski
Dec 18, 2014Moderator
W4RLR wrote:NinerBikes wrote:
Ford's track record with building diesels... 3 attempts now, since Navistar got smart and dumped Ford. 6.0, 6.4, now 6.7. Nothing has changed, when it comes to their engineers designing diesel engines.
Cummins track record? Duramax track record? You tell me.
Ford 6.0 Powerstroke is a Navistar VT 365
Ford 6.4 Powerstroke is a Navistar Maxxforce 7.
The Ford 6.7 Scorpion was designed and built by Ford. All previous engines were built by Navistar, including the 7.3.
Ford has tweaked ALL of the diesels since they have used them from Navistar. The only one maybe not tweaked, and even then I would not bet on it is the IDI6.9. The IDI7.3 max HP/torque from navistar is 175/335, I have one, pretty gutless overall in a 26K navistar MDT. For tweaked it to 185/385 to keep up with the 6.5td specs. The turbo idi7.3 was also a tweaked motor, as that motor was never designed to have a turbo on it, as was the idi6.9. BUT a lot of folks put one on it, including Ford for a year. With a few overheat issues if you had the auto and AC option. You got one or the other, or similar overheat issues the GM had with the 6.5td.
The T444e/7.3psd was maxed at 235/620 from navistar and ~2800 rpm. Ford took it to 275 and the upper 500 lb range with 3500 rpm.
Do not recall what all Ford did to the 6.0 ad 6.4, but I am pretty sure the let them also go beyond the 2800 navistar limited them to to get into the 300+ hp range. The 6.0 was an intermediate motor tween the 7.3 and 6.4, never to be put into production for long.
Marty
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