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Sep 16, 2017

Glow Plugs

Last year my check engine light went on. Went to dealer and was told I had a bad glow plug but it was not necessary to fix it right away and when I did I should just do all 8 since if I had one bad one others could also fail and the labor was not much more to do all 8. Since then the truck has run fine but has not been through a New England winter yet.

Question: Do I need to bother to do it at all? What could go wrong other than hard starting, in which case I will have it done. It is a 2006 LBZ with about 110,000 miles. Dealer maintained since new.

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Question: Do I need to bother to do it at all? What could go wrong other than hard starting, in which case I will have it done. It is a 2006 LBZ with about 110,000 miles. 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Turtle n Peeps wrote:
There is no glow plugs under valve covers for the LBZ (the engine the OP and I have) They are out in the open just like a sparkplug is on a gasoline engine. Instead of a sparkplug boot it has a small wire and a nut to hold the wire on. Then it's just a matter of unscrewing the thing just like a sparkplug. (Pretty easy job unless you keep on dropping the nut. :o )

Okay, I'm officially a little bit jealous of those glowplugs' layout ;) Thanks for the info. Learning something new every day :C","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-09-17T20:34:12.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-09-17T20:34:12.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":536},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:2750339/message:2750352","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"563","rawBody":"

Turtle n Peeps wrote:
There is no glow plugs under valve covers for the LBZ (the engine the OP and I have) They are out in the open just like a sparkplug is on a gasoline engine. Instead of a sparkplug boot it has a small wire and a nut to hold the wire on. Then it's just a matter of unscrewing the thing just like a sparkplug. (Pretty easy job unless you keep on dropping the nut. :o )

Okay, I'm officially a little bit jealous of those glowplugs' layout ;) Thanks for the info. 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DiskDoctr wrote:
Turtle n Peeps wrote:
Sorry but a burnt out glow plug does not swell like has been reported by a few on here.

That being said, I'm not an expert on Duramax, either.

At a MINIMUM, if pulling the cover to replace ONE glow plug, I would ABSOLUTELY replace all the ones on that side. Is it necessary to pay (DIY time or service labor) to remove the other valve cover to replace them...it depends. I probably would, since I usually DIY. If it wasn't too much in service labor, I'd have it done, too.

LOL, I can tell. ;) There is no glow plugs under valve covers for the LBZ (the engine the OP and I have) They are out in the open just like a sparkplug is on a gasoline engine. Instead of a sparkplug boot it has a small wire and a nut to hold the wire on. Then it's just a matter of unscrewing the thing just like a sparkplug. (Pretty easy job unless you keep on dropping the nut. :o )

The OP asked if a burnt out, non operating or whatever you want to call it glow plug would hurt the engine if left in place. The bottom line is; NO.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2750349_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2750348":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2750348","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2750348":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:395110"},"id":"message:2750348","revisionNum":1,"uid":2750348,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2750339"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2750339"},"subject":"Re: Glow Plugs","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2750348"},"body":"

Turtle n Peeps wrote:
Sorry but a burnt out glow plug does not swell like has been reported by a few on here.

Let me clarify: Damaged glow plugs can swell or break off and it does happen more often with non-OEM in the Ford Powerstroke.

I did not intend to imply that glow plugs that are DISCONNECTED swell while disconnected (from being in the cylinder or some other reason?), though I didn't specifically state that part.

Notice I didn't use the term \"burnt out,\" rather disconnected. There are a number of reasons a glow plug may stop working in a particular cylinder. Glow plug physical damage, electrical harness, connectors, etc.

That being said, I'm not an expert on Duramax, either.

At a MINIMUM, if pulling the cover to replace ONE glow plug, I would ABSOLUTELY replace all the ones on that side. Is it necessary to pay (DIY time or service labor) to remove the other valve cover to replace them...it depends. I probably would, since I usually DIY. If it wasn't too much in service labor, I'd have it done, too.

Why?

Well...on the Powerstroke, the glow plugs and injectors use the same Under Valve Cover Harness (UVCH), which use the same wiring harness connectors. It is wise to replace the UVCH at the first sign of trouble, including glow plugs (easy and cheap). Usually around $200 for all glow plugs and both UVCH. No brainer.

The Duramax may be different ;)","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-09-17T06:38:13.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-09-17T06:38:13.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":535},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:2750339/message:2750348","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1489","rawBody":"

Turtle n Peeps wrote:
Sorry but a burnt out glow plug does not swell like has been reported by a few on here.

Let me clarify: Damaged glow plugs can swell or break off and it does happen more often with non-OEM in the Ford Powerstroke.

I did not intend to imply that glow plugs that are DISCONNECTED swell while disconnected (from being in the cylinder or some other reason?), though I didn't specifically state that part.

Notice I didn't use the term \"burnt out,\" rather disconnected. There are a number of reasons a glow plug may stop working in a particular cylinder. Glow plug physical damage, electrical harness, connectors, etc.

That being said, I'm not an expert on Duramax, either.

At a MINIMUM, if pulling the cover to replace ONE glow plug, I would ABSOLUTELY replace all the ones on that side. Is it necessary to pay (DIY time or service labor) to remove the other valve cover to replace them...it depends. I probably would, since I usually DIY. If it wasn't too much in service labor, I'd have it done, too.

Why?

Well...on the Powerstroke, the glow plugs and injectors use the same Under Valve Cover Harness (UVCH), which use the same wiring harness connectors. It is wise to replace the UVCH at the first sign of trouble, including glow plugs (easy and cheap). Usually around $200 for all glow plugs and both UVCH. No brainer.

The Duramax may be different ;)","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2750348_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2750347":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2750347","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2750347":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:1316"},"id":"message:2750347","revisionNum":1,"uid":2750347,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2750339"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2750339"},"subject":"Re: Glow Plugs","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2750347"},"body":"

Turtle n Peeps wrote:
Sorry but a burnt out glow plug does not swell like has been reported by a few on here. It doesn't do anything but not heat the cylinder and aid in cold weather starting.

Why glow plugs swell.

I find it amusing that dealers suggest replacing all the plugs when GM DOES not. I had a CEL light come on while towing and in Montana. Dealer said it was glow plug. I responded that it was emission related and I could continue until I got home. He agreed and cleared the code bit it came back on in a thousand miles or so.
Got back home, checked the owners manual and under the emission warranty it was still covered but a $100.00 deductible. Dealer wanted several hundred dollars for 1 plug. I called GM and they also said it was not covered. Finally convinced him that it was. Paid the $100.. A second plug failed later and I then found a TSB giving instructions on replacing ALL after doing a OHM check but I don't remember what the trigger point for doing so. Dealer had issues with that. Paid my $100. deductible and had it replaced. Later had a $100 check from the dealer stating the second plug was replaced as a \"good will\" gesture.
After my third failure I bought an OEM glow plug for about $20. and replaced myself. Takes a small deep well socket and small combination wrench of which size I do not remember. Disconnected the wires and carefully tried to remove. Turned surprising easy. Put a little never seize on the threads and put the new one in. 30,000 to 40,000 miles later I traded for a new truck and never had another issue.
If I were you I would carefully see if the plug will turn and if so do myself. If it does not break loose then I would have the dealer do it. If you decide to replace them all I would change the ones I could and have the dealer do the rest.
Changing them all will not be cheap. Dealer will probably mark them up to $60-$70 or so and labor would be at least $100. per hour. IIRC, dealer tried to bill me for over $200 for one. 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Earlier this summer after a 2,000 mile trip towing my 5'er I had another one fail as well as 1 injector. The dealer was told to only replace the one glow plug and obviously the injector, but somewhere the word didn't get to the technician and he replaced all 8 glow plugs. Since it was clearly written on the work order I got all 8 glow plugs replaced for a reduced cost on them plus zero labor. 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Earlier this summer after a 2,000 mile trip towing my 5'er I had another one fail as well as 1 injector. The dealer was told to only replace the one glow plug and obviously the injector, but somewhere the word didn't get to the technician and he replaced all 8 glow plugs. Since it was clearly written on the work order I got all 8 glow plugs replaced for a reduced cost on them plus zero labor. 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Kinda shrugged my shoulders, I have 7 more, it'll start in the cold Alberta winters. And it did, no problem.

I do hate looking at the check engine light though. Took it to the dealer this past spring and they told me he same thing, replace all 8 for the small extra time and cost. Suppose I could do it myself but I'm tending to not turn my own wrenches any more.

Plugged my code reader in a month ago when it went into limp mode under a heavy haul, found that I now have #3 glow plug out as well. Now I'm down to 6. Still starts just fine, but winter is coming soon here. Suppose I should change them.

(Limp mode issue was not related to the glow plugs, it was a fuel pressure problem)

But in answer to your question, voice of experience here, I never noticed a difference with one bad plug. Will I with 2? Unknown. Maybe....

Might not get around to changing them. Work has been really bad and my income is way down from a few tears ago. We will see how it starts at minus 25.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-09-16T19:48:27.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-09-16T19:48:27.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":535},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:2750339/message:2750345","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1089","rawBody":"I have an 07 Classic LBZ, lost #7 glow plug last year. Kinda shrugged my shoulders, I have 7 more, it'll start in the cold Alberta winters. And it did, no problem.

I do hate looking at the check engine light though. Took it to the dealer this past spring and they told me he same thing, replace all 8 for the small extra time and cost. Suppose I could do it myself but I'm tending to not turn my own wrenches any more.

Plugged my code reader in a month ago when it went into limp mode under a heavy haul, found that I now have #3 glow plug out as well. Now I'm down to 6. Still starts just fine, but winter is coming soon here. Suppose I should change them.

(Limp mode issue was not related to the glow plugs, it was a fuel pressure problem)

But in answer to your question, voice of experience here, I never noticed a difference with one bad plug. Will I with 2? Unknown. Maybe....

Might not get around to changing them. Work has been really bad and my income is way down from a few tears ago. We will see how it starts at minus 25.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2750345_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2750344":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2750344","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2750344":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:88063"},"id":"message:2750344","revisionNum":1,"uid":2750344,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2750339"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2750339"},"subject":"Re: Glow Plugs","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2750344"},"body":"Sorry but a burnt out glow plug does not swell like has been reported by a few on here. It doesn't do anything but not heat the cylinder and aid in cold weather starting.

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