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- BenKExplorerI attribute these types of 'flaws' to 'bean counter management' and 'green/red light designers'
When at SunLabs we noticed a change in the summer interns from the likes of MIT,
Harvard, Stanford, UC, etc...they were brilliant on paper and the computer, but
they lacked a 'soul' or 'feel' for whatever they were tasked to help R&D
Key was they they were whizzes on the CAD systems and simulation testing...but
didn't have a feel for whatever the computer reported as issues (vectors)
Once they 'fixed' the vectors and got a green light...they were done...or so they
thought
Missing is the gut feel that came from the slide rule days.
The other physicists and I coined them as 'Green/Red light designers'
These young designers about to graduate to become industries next gen engineers
was frightening, as they were so into being in a 'box' that it was scary. Always
thought this kind of stuff was coming and going to become the norm...which it has
Not just GM, but all of them. Including off shore designers...
Doubly scary is that their management likewise no longer has any feel for what
they manage...and...most of them no longer come up the ranks, but straight out
of business school where they are taught 'bottom line' metrics. They no longer
manage their 'product' and betcha if you ask them, they won't be able to tell
in detail what their 'product' is... - fla-gypsyExplorer
Terryallan wrote:
Seems the one at top of the page, is just the tip of the iceburg
Huge GM Recall: Chevrolet Corvette, Malibu, Silverado, Tahoe, Cadillac CTS, GMC Sierra, More
https://autos.yahoo.com/news/huge-gm-recall-chevrolet-corvette-141857653.html
Well that is a little more serious numbers-Live link;
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140515/AUTO0103/305150070/GM-recalls-2-99-million-vehicles-five-new-campaigns - dodge_guyExplorer IIHow many times can one say "my bad"?
- TerryallanExplorer IISeems the one at top of the page, is just the tip of the iceburg
Huge GM Recall: Chevrolet Corvette, Malibu, Silverado, Tahoe, Cadillac CTS, GMC Sierra, More
https://autos.yahoo.com/news/huge-gm-recall-chevrolet-corvette-141857653.html - BenKExplorerCan happen to any OEM and does...
Guessing that in these automated assembly lines that one of the tools
went out of calibration for a while till their 'normal' QC checks found
that torque setting was off
In taking this level of control away from the 'person' on the line...they
have introduced a 'blindness' to the system
Generally, the 'repeatability' of this kind of thing is way better with
a machine than a human. As the human has good days along with some bad
days...
Again, that then introduces a 'blindness' to the system and is the bad
day for the machine...
Similar to the local tire dealerships, including warehouses like Costco,
where the min wage installer is NOT allowed to use the torque wrench
on the lug nuts. Only a supervisor or someone approved by management
is allowed. Even then, noticed that their torque wrenches are tossed
around like a box wrench (it's a precision instrument and that messes
up it's calibration) - goducks10Explorer
fla-gypsy wrote:
Just like the last ones, nothing to see here. If anything they all seem to be hypersensitive to get the recall out quickly unlike the other fiasco.
The fact that they are overnighting the recall notice and requiring a flatbed trip to the dealer, seems pretty serious to me. Yes it is just another of many and frequent recalls, but 99% of recalls don't require you to call a flatbed towing truck to take your vehicle to the dealer. - mockturtleExplorer II
The Fix: Customers should have their vehicles taken by flatbed tow truck to their dealer, where the inner tie rods will be inspected for correct torque, and, if necessary, the steering gear will be replaced.
Yeah, right! - fla-gypsyExplorerJust like the last ones, nothing to see here. If anything they all seem to be hypersensitive to get the recall out quickly unlike the other fiasco.
- FordloverExplorer
goducks10 wrote:
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2014/05/recall-alert-2014-chevrolet-silverado-and-gmc-sierra-2015-chevrolet-tahoe.html
Fortunately it's not that many.
I guess the good news is we can just recycle the comments from the last GM recall thread. or the last Ford recall thread, or the last Fiat/Chrysler recall thread...... - TerryallanExplorer IIDurn. the hits just keep on coming, and to think. I WAS seriously looking at GM trucks.
On the other hand. They DID at least recall before any one was hurt. That is a step in the right direction.
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