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  • I attribute these types of 'flaws' to 'bean counter management' and 'green/red light designers'

    When at SunLabs we noticed a change in the summer interns from the likes of MIT,
    Harvard, Stanford, UC, etc...they were brilliant on paper and the computer, but
    they lacked a 'soul' or 'feel' for whatever they were tasked to help R&D

    Key was they they were whizzes on the CAD systems and simulation testing...but
    didn't have a feel for whatever the computer reported as issues (vectors)

    Once they 'fixed' the vectors and got a green light...they were done...or so they
    thought

    Missing is the gut feel that came from the slide rule days.

    The other physicists and I coined them as 'Green/Red light designers'

    These young designers about to graduate to become industries next gen engineers
    was frightening, as they were so into being in a 'box' that it was scary. Always
    thought this kind of stuff was coming and going to become the norm...which it has

    Not just GM, but all of them. Including off shore designers...

    Doubly scary is that their management likewise no longer has any feel for what
    they manage...and...most of them no longer come up the ranks, but straight out
    of business school where they are taught 'bottom line' metrics. They no longer
    manage their 'product' and betcha if you ask them, they won't be able to tell
    in detail what their 'product' is...
  • Seems the one at top of the page, is just the tip of the iceburg


    Huge GM Recall: Chevrolet Corvette, Malibu, Silverado, Tahoe, Cadillac CTS, GMC Sierra, More

    https://autos.yahoo.com/news/huge-gm-recall-chevrolet-corvette-141857653.html
  • Can happen to any OEM and does...

    Guessing that in these automated assembly lines that one of the tools
    went out of calibration for a while till their 'normal' QC checks found
    that torque setting was off

    In taking this level of control away from the 'person' on the line...they
    have introduced a 'blindness' to the system

    Generally, the 'repeatability' of this kind of thing is way better with
    a machine than a human. As the human has good days along with some bad
    days...

    Again, that then introduces a 'blindness' to the system and is the bad
    day for the machine...

    Similar to the local tire dealerships, including warehouses like Costco,
    where the min wage installer is NOT allowed to use the torque wrench
    on the lug nuts. Only a supervisor or someone approved by management
    is allowed. Even then, noticed that their torque wrenches are tossed
    around like a box wrench (it's a precision instrument and that messes
    up it's calibration)
  • fla-gypsy wrote:
    Just like the last ones, nothing to see here. If anything they all seem to be hypersensitive to get the recall out quickly unlike the other fiasco.


    The fact that they are overnighting the recall notice and requiring a flatbed trip to the dealer, seems pretty serious to me. Yes it is just another of many and frequent recalls, but 99% of recalls don't require you to call a flatbed towing truck to take your vehicle to the dealer.
  • The Fix: Customers should have their vehicles taken by flatbed tow truck to their dealer, where the inner tie rods will be inspected for correct torque, and, if necessary, the steering gear will be replaced.
    Yeah, right!
  • Just like the last ones, nothing to see here. If anything they all seem to be hypersensitive to get the recall out quickly unlike the other fiasco.
  • Durn. the hits just keep on coming, and to think. I WAS seriously looking at GM trucks.

    On the other hand. They DID at least recall before any one was hurt. That is a step in the right direction.