GM Admits Fudging Payload Ratings
GM Admits Fudging Payload Ratings :E:E:E
Forum Discussion
My guess on why they do this is more than pure marketing against their competition,
which I think is 'now' true...
Back, way back, they actually did have folks who bought the stripper model
and betcha the main seller. AKA the 'curb' vehicle
I used to help prep the 'new' pickup for Uncle Bill's shop. He did
buy the better bumpers and moved them onto the 'new' pickup. Anyone
remember 'Barden' bumpers? He taught me HOW2 fabricate and weld the
bracketry for the bumper vices on them. Ditto the spare and he did
rotate all FIVE as he also knew he got every penny out of tires that way.
So of course they used the base model to derive the ratings.
As more and more folks 'got it' on how useful pickups are...they were also the
types who ordered upscale options that the old did not (they just wanted a work
vehicle)
To today where folks don't consider a base, or curb vehicle
I don't blame the OEMs and again driven by ignorance on how it works and the
inability to read and understand the fine print
All it now takes of for 'one' of the competition to use the 'curb' or 'stripper'
model. How else can they be competitive...especially when most all the buyers
shop using the 'King of the Hill' MTWR and cargo/payload ratings...WITHOUT reading
the fine print, nor understanding what the fine print says
Even the Ram used the 'curb base' model. Maybe not as stripped as GM & Ford,
but it is a 'base' model and on that, only three so far have admitted to owning
a base model here
I don't believe the OEMs actually weigh each vehicle. Can believe that
they 'might' derive the weight via the options ordered/installed and
having the computer do the math adding each/all to derive a weight
against the GVWR...but...don't believe they do so, yet
Until I'm convinced...will continue to advise those asking to go
out and actually weighing their TV/Setup to know where they are in
reference to their ratings.
Also always say to decide if you believe in the ratings system or not
If not, then do whatever, but know you have taken the OEM off the
warranty (if any left) and liability hook
If yes, then learn how the ratings system works. Including reading
and UNDERSTANDING the fine print
which I think is 'now' true...
Back, way back, they actually did have folks who bought the stripper model
and betcha the main seller. AKA the 'curb' vehicle
I used to help prep the 'new' pickup for Uncle Bill's shop. He did
buy the better bumpers and moved them onto the 'new' pickup. Anyone
remember 'Barden' bumpers? He taught me HOW2 fabricate and weld the
bracketry for the bumper vices on them. Ditto the spare and he did
rotate all FIVE as he also knew he got every penny out of tires that way.
So of course they used the base model to derive the ratings.
As more and more folks 'got it' on how useful pickups are...they were also the
types who ordered upscale options that the old did not (they just wanted a work
vehicle)
To today where folks don't consider a base, or curb vehicle
I don't blame the OEMs and again driven by ignorance on how it works and the
inability to read and understand the fine print
All it now takes of for 'one' of the competition to use the 'curb' or 'stripper'
model. How else can they be competitive...especially when most all the buyers
shop using the 'King of the Hill' MTWR and cargo/payload ratings...WITHOUT reading
the fine print, nor understanding what the fine print says
Even the Ram used the 'curb base' model. Maybe not as stripped as GM & Ford,
but it is a 'base' model and on that, only three so far have admitted to owning
a base model here
I don't believe the OEMs actually weigh each vehicle. Can believe that
they 'might' derive the weight via the options ordered/installed and
having the computer do the math adding each/all to derive a weight
against the GVWR...but...don't believe they do so, yet
Until I'm convinced...will continue to advise those asking to go
out and actually weighing their TV/Setup to know where they are in
reference to their ratings.
Also always say to decide if you believe in the ratings system or not
If not, then do whatever, but know you have taken the OEM off the
warranty (if any left) and liability hook
If yes, then learn how the ratings system works. Including reading
and UNDERSTANDING the fine print
