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NC Hauler wrote:
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Good decision :B Away for the week-end but I can't figure out what the subject was on this thread :W Oh wait, I see it's about liar's :E
Darwin's Runner Up Award Finalist :BNC Hauler wrote:
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Good decision :B Away for the week-end but I can't figure out what the subject was on this thread :W Oh wait, I see it's about liar's :E- Deleted....
mich800 wrote:
To me, components like 12.25" Dana 110, 10 lug Alcoa 19.5s, 15"+ brake rotors, and 87 mph commercial tires, all scream Class 4 truck.
If Ford sand bags the GVW just to squeeze into the Class 3, well that's like athletes dehydrating just to squeeze into a weight class - it works, but you'll lose some people's respect.
I guess if that makes you feel better. So the Ram with an advertised 30k tow rating that is higher than Rams 5500 is not?
The 30,000 is an achievement; the ability to make that achievement, in a Class 3 truck, is our debate.
You can't then turn around and use that achievement to dis-credit its Class rating, that's flawed circular argument.
Class 3 truck can out-rate their Class 5 counterparts in multiple areas, namingly towing and horsepower. The F450 has more power than many Class 8 tractors. Does that discredit the Ford?
Tell you what, if Ford takes away the F350, and re-badge their F450 the new F350, I'd say "fair game, they choose to over-engineer their F350".
But they can't have clearly distinguished F350, F450, then claim the latter is in the same class as the former.Cummins12V98 wrote:
I wish my RAM were "assembled" in USA. Still it has the Mighty Cummins and many of it's other parts come from USA.
If you are patient, Toyota might offer a 1 ton with the Cummins. It'll be built in the USA by American workers...;)mich800 wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
mich800 wrote:
RoyJ wrote:
mich800 wrote:
They go by GVWR. So yes your analogy works providing the 1500 is a comparable GVWR as the 3500 dually.
To me, components like 12.25" Dana 110, 10 lug Alcoa 19.5s, 15"+ brake rotors, and 87 mph commercial tires, all scream Class 4 truck.
If Ford sand bags the GVW just to squeeze into the Class 3, well that's like athletes dehydrating just to squeeze into a weight class - it works, but you'll lose some people's respect.
I guess if that makes you feel better. So the Ram with an advertised 30k tow rating that is higher than Rams 5500 is not?
At least RAM backs up their claims with SAE J807.
So you agree.
Of course, in the medium duty 4500/5500 trucks they are de tuned. I am sure they could up the ratings if they wanted to, legitimately.Cummins12V98 wrote:
mich800 wrote:
RoyJ wrote:
mich800 wrote:
They go by GVWR. So yes your analogy works providing the 1500 is a comparable GVWR as the 3500 dually.
To me, components like 12.25" Dana 110, 10 lug Alcoa 19.5s, 15"+ brake rotors, and 87 mph commercial tires, all scream Class 4 truck.
If Ford sand bags the GVW just to squeeze into the Class 3, well that's like athletes dehydrating just to squeeze into a weight class - it works, but you'll lose some people's respect.
I guess if that makes you feel better. So the Ram with an advertised 30k tow rating that is higher than Rams 5500 is not?
At least RAM backs up their claims with SAE J807.
So you agree.- Fish you are correct on Diamler May 7 1998.
Both my 98's are made in late 97 since they are both 12 Valves.
I wish my RAM were "assembled" in USA. Still it has the Mighty Cummins and many of it's other parts come from USA. mich800 wrote:
RoyJ wrote:
mich800 wrote:
They go by GVWR. So yes your analogy works providing the 1500 is a comparable GVWR as the 3500 dually.
To me, components like 12.25" Dana 110, 10 lug Alcoa 19.5s, 15"+ brake rotors, and 87 mph commercial tires, all scream Class 4 truck.
If Ford sand bags the GVW just to squeeze into the Class 3, well that's like athletes dehydrating just to squeeze into a weight class - it works, but you'll lose some people's respect.
I guess if that makes you feel better. So the Ram with an advertised 30k tow rating that is higher than Rams 5500 is not?
At least RAM backs up their claims with SAE J807.RoyJ wrote:
mich800 wrote:
They go by GVWR. So yes your analogy works providing the 1500 is a comparable GVWR as the 3500 dually.
To me, components like 12.25" Dana 110, 10 lug Alcoa 19.5s, 15"+ brake rotors, and 87 mph commercial tires, all scream Class 4 truck.
If Ford sand bags the GVW just to squeeze into the Class 3, well that's like athletes dehydrating just to squeeze into a weight class - it works, but you'll lose some people's respect.
I guess if that makes you feel better. So the Ram with an advertised 30k tow rating that is higher than Rams 5500 is not?
