GM, Ford Fudging Payload Ratings
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Vast majority either don't remember or don't believe that fact
Fact is that way back in the day Uncle Bill taught me that the 'curb'
was the stripper model and why he ordered only the base model for his
customer kitchen SS sheetmetal shop trucks
Back then, you could order that 'curb' and it did NOT have a spare,
nor rear bumper, nor AC, nor automatic, nor power windows, nor power
seats, nor power locks, no radio, no carpet (yes, bare sheetmetal floor
pan, nor insulation, nor nice seats, ETC, ETC...nothing but the
bare vehicle...AKA...stripper
Today, that 'curb' model, in most cases, is NOT offered for sale. As
most today check off just about ever options box there is.
Yes, foreign does a better job, but that was also in the old days...but
today...they have to more competitive...as US badges has come up in
quality levels.
Disliked helping Uncle Bill install kitchens out in the Calif Central
Valley...HOT with no AC...rough roads and those El Cheapo seats and
the NOISE from no carpeting, etc. Even the door panels were El Cheapo
fiber board with a very, very thin vinyl layer. The sun visors were
perforated fiber board. Even the ceiling was covered with a very thin
cloth
PS...El Cheapo wheel hub caps about 6" in dia...just large enough
to cover the lug nuts
Fact is that way back in the day Uncle Bill taught me that the 'curb'
was the stripper model and why he ordered only the base model for his
customer kitchen SS sheetmetal shop trucks
Back then, you could order that 'curb' and it did NOT have a spare,
nor rear bumper, nor AC, nor automatic, nor power windows, nor power
seats, nor power locks, no radio, no carpet (yes, bare sheetmetal floor
pan, nor insulation, nor nice seats, ETC, ETC...nothing but the
bare vehicle...AKA...stripper
Today, that 'curb' model, in most cases, is NOT offered for sale. As
most today check off just about ever options box there is.
Yes, foreign does a better job, but that was also in the old days...but
today...they have to more competitive...as US badges has come up in
quality levels.
Disliked helping Uncle Bill install kitchens out in the Calif Central
Valley...HOT with no AC...rough roads and those El Cheapo seats and
the NOISE from no carpeting, etc. Even the door panels were El Cheapo
fiber board with a very, very thin vinyl layer. The sun visors were
perforated fiber board. Even the ceiling was covered with a very thin
cloth
PS...El Cheapo wheel hub caps about 6" in dia...just large enough
to cover the lug nuts
Fast Mopar wrote:BenK wrote:
Again...been saying the 'curb' is the 'stripper' for years and years...
Ben, with all due respect, this revelation from Ford and GM does not prove your point. There is a big difference between using a base model truck with no options and actually removing parts from the base model truck. In a recent thread, someone asked about a Nissan Armada payload, and you said the payload was calculated on a "stripper" Armada without power windows, power locks, etc. That is simply not correct, because Armadas all have power windows and power locks. The "stripper" model Armada has all of those things. Now, if we eventually discover that Nissan is removing the power window motors and power lock actuators just like GM is removing rear bumpers, then your point would be correct.
