GM trucks take top spot for the year !

I did not make that statement to say anything about Ford but I see all the Ford haters took it that way. To me its like combining VW, Audi, and Porsche to beat another brand. :S

1jeep wrote:
Boshog....Hate to tell you I have been shopping 1 ton dually and they are all within a few thousand of each other, not sure how you got the perception that ford is that much more.

Should have clarified, I was speaking about the high MSRPs of the F150s, I looked at some that passed the $70K mark. A while back, Ford put a $10K incentive on higher content F150s to help dealers move them.

My RAM3500 Longhorn had a 70K MSRP and that was shocking, I never expected to see a half ton up that high.

My post was irrelevant to the original topic, I apologize and withdraw. Good for GM, I'm happy to see that auto sales are up, but I am concerned about the amount of credit carried in the United States. I'm as guilty as the next, I borrowed almost 50% of the cost of my truck.

Mark, you and I will just have to disagree on the notion of "paid in full".

spoon059 wrote:

45Ricochet wrote:
I'm pretty sure they are not two different companies. All profits go into the GM piggy bank :W

Profits...? What profits? If they made profits, the American taxpayers wouldn't be something like $50 BILLION poorer for having bailed them out...

gm repaid the gov't loan AHEAD of schedule with interest.

get your facts right. and yes, they make a profit. AND some good vehicles.

Govt ended up selling the remainder of gov't owned GM stock

and in the end it cost govt about 9B, NOT 50 B.

spoon059 wrote:

45Ricochet wrote:
I'm pretty sure they are not two different companies. All profits go into the GM piggy bank :W

Profits...? What profits? If they made profits, the American taxpayers wouldn't be something like $50 BILLION poorer for having bailed them out...

Interesting footnote in the recent 10-Q. All in good fun. I guess this will probably head the way of every Ford thread now.

45Ricochet wrote:
I'm pretty sure they are not two different companies. All profits go into the GM piggy bank :W

Profits...? What profits? If they made profits, the American taxpayers wouldn't be something like $50 BILLION poorer for having bailed them out...

blt2ski wrote:

Lessmore wrote:

Bird Freak wrote:
No news here. Combining two company's sales totals to beat another brand is not right.

Oh, I think it depends on whose Ox is being gored. :B

Up until the '68 model year, in Canada, the Ford Motor Company Canada, used to sell both Ford and Mercury trucks. After the '68 model year, Ford-Canada dropped the Mercury truck and Merc dealers then sold Ford pickups.

No more splitting the line and splitting sales between Ford and Merc trucks. It would be all Ford truck, in Canada, for the '69 truck on.

It was about that time Ford pickups, first started to outsell Chevy pickups in Canada. But then, GM Canada still sold both Chevy and GMC pickups as they have since time immemorial.

BTW, I'm not anti Ford, just calling them the way I see them. In fact our family business back in 1968, had one of the last of the Mercury trucks. It was a '68 Merc M 250...with the 300 cube inline six, three on the tree. Good truck, but wasn't the 300 I 6, a Ford engine ? ;)

If so, why did our Mercury truck have a Mercury decal on the engine ?

:D

They did this so the engine would not have to be "Fixed Or Repaired Daily"! They could sprinkle the motor with Mercury dust, it became a Mercury, so it would not be "Found On Roadside Dead!"

I heard that from me not unborn grandchild who heard it from Moses, who heard it tomorrow from Edsel Ford!

That is me story, I am a sticken to it!

Oh, do not say I do not have a sorta kinda sense of humor........Grandpa told me that too, he had a ford stealer ship in Georgetown area of Seattle back in the 20's before the 20 crash. Even sold Grandma a car, then married her! Truth! honest........

Marty

See ! I'm glad Marty agrees with me. At least I think he has...:B

Lessmore wrote:

Bird Freak wrote:
No news here. Combining two company's sales totals to beat another brand is not right.

Oh, I think it depends on whose Ox is being gored. :B

Up until the '68 model year, in Canada, the Ford Motor Company Canada, used to sell both Ford and Mercury trucks. After the '68 model year, Ford-Canada dropped the Mercury truck and Merc dealers then sold Ford pickups.

No more splitting the line and splitting sales between Ford and Merc trucks. It would be all Ford truck, in Canada, for the '69 truck on.

It was about that time Ford pickups, first started to outsell Chevy pickups in Canada. But then, GM Canada still sold both Chevy and GMC pickups as they have since time immemorial.

BTW, I'm not anti Ford, just calling them the way I see them. In fact our family business back in 1968, had one of the last of the Mercury trucks. It was a '68 Merc M 250...with the 300 cube inline six, three on the tree. Good truck, but wasn't the 300 I 6, a Ford engine ? ;)

If so, why did our Mercury truck have a Mercury decal on the engine ?

:D

They did this so the engine would not have to be "Fixed Or Repaired Daily"! They could sprinkle the motor with Mercury dust, it became a Mercury, so it would not be "Found On Roadside Dead!"

I heard that from me not unborn grandchild who heard it from Moses, who heard it tomorrow from Edsel Ford!

That is me story, I am a sticken to it!

Oh, do not say I do not have a sorta kinda sense of humor........Grandpa told me that too, he had a ford stealer ship in Georgetown area of Seattle back in the 20's before the 20 crash. Even sold Grandma a car, then married her! Truth! honest........

Marty

Bird Freak wrote:
No news here. Combining two company's sales totals to beat another brand is not right.

Oh, I think it depends on whose Ox is being gored. :B

Up until the '68 model year, in Canada, the Ford Motor Company Canada, used to sell both Ford and Mercury trucks. After the '68 model year, Ford-Canada dropped the Mercury truck and Merc dealers then sold Ford pickups.

No more splitting the line and splitting sales between Ford and Merc trucks. It would be all Ford truck, in Canada, for the '69 truck on.

It was about that time Ford pickups, first started to outsell Chevy pickups in Canada. But then, GM Canada still sold both Chevy and GMC pickups as they have since time immemorial.

BTW, I'm not anti Ford, just calling them the way I see them. In fact our family business back in 1968, had one of the last of the Mercury trucks. It was a '68 Merc M 250...with the 300 cube inline six, three on the tree. Good truck, but wasn't the 300 I 6, a Ford engine ? ;)

If so, why did our Mercury truck have a Mercury decal on the engine ? :D

QUOtE:: "NO they are two different BRANDS from the same company.
They are NOT separate companies."

This one! ^^