GMs new secret weapon......LOL

In case you didn't know, buick in china is like bmw here. They really like the buicks. Guess the quality must be pretty good and they are a change from the cookie cutter cars found there.

JALLEN4 it is no surprise since most of our jobs have been sent over there. The Chinese market rose to 13.6 million total units (cars, buses and trucks) compared to 10.4 million here in the States. Again thanks to Corporate America's greed and their pursuit too put as much money in their grubby little (large really) pockets as they can.

Don

Terryallen,

Sorry I didn't get back to your post earlier as it's Mothers Day and lots of happenings at church this morning.

"bimbert84" had posted what tier literally means and it's 3rd down the line of suppliers. Tier 3 is a component sub-supplier to tier 2 who is a component partial assembly sub-supplier to tier 1 who has the actual supplier contract to supply the finished assembly using components from sub-supplier tier levels, be it black box, or gray box item complete ready to install at the assembly line of the manufacturer on a JIT (Just In Time) basis.

Manufacturer's today usually have a max inventory of 4 hours line run time supply of vehicle components on their floor especially if the component is of any physical size. This does not include items such as fasteners and other small bulk type items. The tier 1 supplier is the controller of and the responsibility of their contractural agreement with the manufacturer and physically/controls the inventory themselves to supply JIT. Be it in house in transit to the assembly line and dictates to it's sub-suppliers as to the inventory they are authorized and required to have on hand and also materials purchasing releases for purchased items. That is why they are called TIERS. It's a pipeline of JIT as much as practical or possible to the final assembly line of finished items/assemblies for vehicle build. GM, Ford, Chrysler, etc do NOT inventory components in house and haven't for many years, like since the 1980's.

Tier 3 is way down the line of component supply levels!

Terryallan wrote:

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

Terryallan wrote:
Why did they wait so long?

:h not sure what you mean by this. Has GM had issues with previous new product launches? I think why they have done this is due to the fact their (every auto manufacture) vendors are lite in the engineer area maybe.

Don

To try to come up to Ford's truck standard. To try to be more like Ford. Their trucks have remained virtually unchanged for the last several years, While Ford has marched steadily forward. The only place GM is expanding in, Is China. They have lost 70,000 jobs in the US since the bailout. They are growing in China. We in effect paid them to move jobs to China.

That would really be a mis-representation of facts. GM is down 76,000 jobs in the U.S. dating back to 2005. Since the bailout, they have actually added 23,000+ jobs and invested around 11 billion in North America. More than has been invested in China.

GM would be remiss if they were not investing heavily in China. The Chinese new vehicle market is now substantially larger than the U.S. market and GM is now selling more cars there than in the U.S. The projections are for the China market to be double the annual U.S. market volume by 2020.

It would be erroneous to characterize GM sending jobs to China at the expense of U.S. jobs. It is an international market and what is happening is no different than Toyota building cars in the U.S. At least in this case, the profits are flowing back to the U.S. rather than going the other way.

I did read back a bit !!

Well maybe add that next time so we know what you are referring to.

Don

Talking about in the USA GM is tops every month. World wide is a claim that I did not make. I like to focus more around home !!!

Lessmore wrote:

BenK wrote:
Means this OEM has realized that their bean counter management of the engineering
department and design product teams has not worked...eliminating CDRs (critical design
reviews) and making their customers the test mules (not just GM, but mostly
Detroit OEMs)

FEA is only as good as the input and canned software DB

Anyone remember that Detroit had many million mile proto-types that were disassembled
for forensic's ? Or that they kept those test mules well past the million mile
mark to see what wore out/broke later?

I do.

I also agree about bean counters running companies. Recall the the 1980's when a bean counter ran GM and market share plunged...around 20 % in that decade.

Compare that decade to the years when an enthusiast engineer (Ed Cole) ran Chevy...then GM....these were the glory and best market share years of GM.

The eternal struggle between expense cutting bean counters and top line growth business people continues!

MARK VANDERBENT wrote:
In case you all are wondering ?? GM sells the most autos in the USA than any other manufacturer. They must be doing something right !! and now they are even leaner and meaner ! I follow the stats from goodcarbadcar.org and month after month GM is the top seller. FACT !

should have quoted this sorry.


GM is not on top anymore Mark, Toyota retook that again. LINK


Sorry Terry if GM is tiring to "come up to Fords truck standard" they should aim a little higher, given the fact that Ford is not very customer friendly. At least GM has stood beside their customers that have had CP4 failures, unlike Ford.

Sorry not hatting here just facts, from a former
Blue Kool-aid drinker.

Don

Didn't see or hear nothing new! Kind of boring actually. Just like the trucks!