Grand Wagoneer vs RAM 1500

dodge guy wrote:
LOL! 3 pointed star, Perceived quality!
Daimler is far from something I would buy!

Sure. Like I said, no right and no wrong. Everybody has their opinion, and their preferences.

Looks like by your profile you bought a Ford Excursion and a Forest River product. Good for you. Your choice :C Sorry that you've had poor personal experience with MB products in the past. I have not, so I still like them.

RetiredRealtorRick wrote:

Bionic Man wrote:

RetiredRealtorRick wrote:

Bionic Man wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

IdaD wrote:
Are the more modest versions more in line with prices you'd expect for a Suburban or Expedition?

$87k IS the "modest" version...lol

The Grand Wagoneer isn’t made to compete with the Burb and the Expedition. It’s made to compete with the Escalade and Navigator, and is priced accordingly. The Wagoneer is designed to compete with the Burb and the Ex. There really isn’t a “base” model of either, they are all much better equipped at the lowest trim level, but when they are speced with similar options they are priced comparably.

Yup, Cadillac, Lincoln,.....Jeep. Those 3 belong in the same basket, yessireee!! :h

Have you looked at one? Or read any of the reviews? It sure doesn't sound like it.

I'll save you some time. Here is a MotorTrend comparison where it bests the Escalade
MotorTrend

Vs Navigator

AutoGuide Comparison

It's still a Jeep (and yes, I've read several reviews). Like I said in an earlier post, to spend that much money on a vehicle it darn well better have a three-pointed star on the hood (and for that money, it certainly could).

Sorry, everybody's taste is different. There's no right and no wrong. Just not a big Jeep fan (other than Wrangler's for beach driving, oh yes, and Renegades, just to make me chuckle).

I don't think Cadillac and Lincoln mean much anymore in terms of being luxury brands to most folks. For the last decade plus they've mostly just been high trim level Chevy and Ford SUVs. I doubt being called a Jeep will hamper the GW at all in comparison.

LOL! 3 pointed star, Perceived quality!
Daimler is far from something I would buy!

Bionic Man wrote:

RetiredRealtorRick wrote:

Bionic Man wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

IdaD wrote:
Are the more modest versions more in line with prices you'd expect for a Suburban or Expedition?

$87k IS the "modest" version...lol

The Grand Wagoneer isn’t made to compete with the Burb and the Expedition. It’s made to compete with the Escalade and Navigator, and is priced accordingly. The Wagoneer is designed to compete with the Burb and the Ex. There really isn’t a “base” model of either, they are all much better equipped at the lowest trim level, but when they are speced with similar options they are priced comparably.

Yup, Cadillac, Lincoln,.....Jeep. Those 3 belong in the same basket, yessireee!! :h

Have you looked at one? Or read any of the reviews? It sure doesn't sound like it.

I'll save you some time. Here is a MotorTrend comparison where it bests the Escalade
MotorTrend

Vs Navigator

AutoGuide Comparison

It's still a Jeep (and yes, I've read several reviews). Like I said in an earlier post, to spend that much money on a vehicle it darn well better have a three-pointed star on the hood (and for that money, it certainly could).

Sorry, everybody's taste is different. There's no right and no wrong. Just not a big Jeep fan (other than Wrangler's for beach driving, oh yes, and Renegades, just to make me chuckle).

RetiredRealtorRick wrote:

Bionic Man wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

IdaD wrote:
Are the more modest versions more in line with prices you'd expect for a Suburban or Expedition?

$87k IS the "modest" version...lol

The Grand Wagoneer isn’t made to compete with the Burb and the Expedition. It’s made to compete with the Escalade and Navigator, and is priced accordingly. The Wagoneer is designed to compete with the Burb and the Ex. There really isn’t a “base” model of either, they are all much better equipped at the lowest trim level, but when they are speced with similar options they are priced comparably.

Yup, Cadillac, Lincoln,.....Jeep. Those 3 belong in the same basket, yessireee!! :h

Have you looked at one? Or read any of the reviews? It sure doesn't sound like it.

I'll save you some time. Here is a MotorTrend comparison where it bests the Escalade
MotorTrend

Vs Navigator

AutoGuide Comparison

RetiredRealtorRick wrote:

Bionic Man wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

IdaD wrote:
Are the more modest versions more in line with prices you'd expect for a Suburban or Expedition?

$87k IS the "modest" version...lol

The Grand Wagoneer isn’t made to compete with the Burb and the Expedition. It’s made to compete with the Escalade and Navigator, and is priced accordingly. The Wagoneer is designed to compete with the Burb and the Ex. There really isn’t a “base” model of either, they are all much better equipped at the lowest trim level, but when they are speced with similar options they are priced comparably.

Yup, Cadillac, Lincoln,.....Jeep. Those 3 belong in the same basket, yessireee!! :h

The original Grand Wagoneer was an upscale SUV hence the same reason the new one is.

Bionic Man wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

IdaD wrote:
Are the more modest versions more in line with prices you'd expect for a Suburban or Expedition?

$87k IS the "modest" version...lol

The Grand Wagoneer isn’t made to compete with the Burb and the Expedition. It’s made to compete with the Escalade and Navigator, and is priced accordingly. The Wagoneer is designed to compete with the Burb and the Ex. There really isn’t a “base” model of either, they are all much better equipped at the lowest trim level, but when they are speced with similar options they are priced comparably.

Yup, Cadillac, Lincoln,.....Jeep. Those 3 belong in the same basket, yessireee!! :h

I do say that I think the price concerns are kind of funny. The same people that are squawking about $90k on a truly state of the art vehicle, something that has tech, safety features, and amenities that just weren't available even a few. years ago are often the same individuals that are willing to pay a similar amount (or more) on an RV that, especially when it comes to towable, is essentially the same trailer you could buy 10 years ago. In addition, the RV is something that will only be used a couple months a year, and a handful of trips per year for most people, vs a vehicle that would be used in most cases daily.

Different strokes for different folks. Must not be the target market, as the last time I checked, the GW is selling as quickly as it can be built. When I ordered my new GC in November, the Jeep dealer told me that the GW is one of only two vehicles that they wouldn't honor Employee Purchase price for ordering.

We’ve gotten these in at the dealer. The highest sticker so far I’ve seen was $112k this was a Grand Wagoneer Series III. They are nice, but there are a few questionable options. Like the rear monitors that are mounted to the back of the front seats as well as the controls/display for the rear seat. They look like they will be ripped off easily.

But yet people are buying these as soon as they are out front!

No dealer has the base $87K model. I've looked locally.