Half ton tow rating = 12,000#

I test drove a couple current 6.2L trucks prior to buying my Suburban. I really liked it. Every owner account loves it too. I'd love to have this next 6.2L in a 3/4 ton Burb!

rhagfo wrote:
12,000# towing capacity, what is the GCVWR? Great to get to the top of the hill, but what about a long grade down hill?
Seen way too many in a gasser riding the brakes on a long down hill, just like I needed to until I installed my Pacbrake. No longer need for the brake peddle on the way down the hill now! I can almost bring the entire 19,000 GCVW to a stop on the down hill.

The Double Cab standard box has a tow rating of 11,500 with the 5.3 and has a GCWR of 16,700.

It also has a transmission, 6-speed automatic, electronically controlled with overdrive and tow/haul mode. Includes Cruise Grade Braking and Powertrain Grade Braking

rhagfo wrote:
12,000# towing capacity, what is the GCVWR? Great to get to the top of the hill, but what about a long grade down hill?
Seen way too many in a gasser riding the brakes on a long down hill, just like I needed to until I installed my Pacbrake. No longer need for the brake peddle on the way down the hill now! I can almost bring the entire 19,000 GCVW to a stop on the down hill.

Most everyone is bad mouthing gassers without ANY knowledge of what the newer generation of gassers will and will not do. I drive one and KNOW what it will and will NOT do, safely. First off, it has a GCWR of 16K and is a 1500 6.2L NHT model. the steepest grade we have pulled with a load is 16% and had NO problems going up, but have never seen a 30% grade on a paved road so can't tell you what that is like, even empty. As far as stopping, it has a factory engine/transmission brake built into the drivetrain and it too will come to a complete stop on a 6% downgrade without standing on the brakes. It also has a factory installed trailer brake, so please tell me why my truck is so hazardous that it should never be allowed on the highway towing a 10K trailer...:?

Some folks have educated themselves on the new gas models, but some would rather, well you know.......

12,000# towing capacity, what is the GCVWR? Great to get to the top of the hill, but what about a long grade down hill?
Seen way too many in a gasser riding the brakes on a long down hill, just like I needed to until I installed my Pacbrake. No longer need for the brake peddle on the way down the hill now! I can almost bring the entire 19,000 GCVW to a stop on the down hill.

hey nutz,

Marketing hype can go BOTH ways here. I remember being at the dmax factory, I asked a supposide engineer how steep a grade I could pull with an 01/02 dmax, since I was there on sept 7, 01, he told me it was amtn climber.......hmmmmm....I rattled off I was told my 89 r3500 chassis cab with a 454/th400/4.10s was a mtn climber, yet it stalled at gvwr on an upper teen % grade. He then said after a foot shuffle or two or three. that was a gas rig, not a D/A combo....well anyway, never did get an answer out of him.

He was also the one in front of a number of us in the cafeteria saying "under NO circumstances" should one put 265-75-16 rubber on there 2500HD, or the puters would go haywire, as would the ally tranny.......hmmmmmmm.... so what did GM put n the new 3500SW rig intorduced two yrs later.....yep, them 265-75-16 rubber that would make things go haywire..........I kid you not!

So with all this baloney and non sensical typing by me........I believe NO ONE on there claims of what a rig will do ever since. Oh by the way....my 96 65td with a emanual 5sp, would pull 20K up a 30% grade without stalling......a D/A from that time period. maybe 22-23% up a 30% grade, yet it had what 8000 someodd more gcwr thanmy lowly 6.5 deezal. BUT, said D/A would go 55+ up a 3% grade where my 6.5 would be about 35mph. Amazing what 120hp will do for one eh!

Do I trust tow ratings. not on yours or my life!

Marty

blt2ski,

ever notice that neither Ford PSD nor Ram/Cummins ever has their diesel engines SAE certified? Instead their engines are claimed HP and Torque by the manufacturer but never SAE certified. GM's diesels are SAE certified and notice the difference when independently tested with identical loading and test run circumstances. The lesser HP and Torque SAE certified engine out performs the claimed engines everytime in every pull test and usually does it using less fuel. How can that be??? Quite telling about some using a marketing exaggeration to baffle the consumer with BS!

Boy, and to think a few yrs ago, I had a sw3500 with a whopping 12K gcwr! I used to run down the road at 20K, no white knuckles as one person was saying I would have had....oh wait, it WAS a deezal twuck!

Until I personally see WHAT payload, frame axel......pkg this thing has, I would not doubt a 400/400+ motor should not have issues with a 12K trailer. I routinly pull a 12K trailer with a 12K empty twuck and a non turbo IDI deexal with a 175/330 power spec motor. Pulled said trailer with my 12K gcwr twuck and its lowly 6.5td deezal too! no issues, other than being slower than an equal setup chassis rig due to less HP and torque!

Marty

skipnchar wrote:

thirtydaZe wrote:
Towing 12k with a gasser would likely be a white knuckle experience.

:H Why would the engine make any difference in stability? Or were you meaning for some other reason?

I guess i was referring to the fact that just because the truck can pull it, doesnt mean its a good idea.m my truck can max tow 17000, dont think much over 14000 would be "comfortable".

thirtydaZe wrote:
Towing 12k with a gasser would likely be a white knuckle experience.

Assumes facts not in evidence.

Less filling tastes great.... Mine is paid off and don't hate.