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Camaurice
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Mar 23, 2023

Help making a decision on truck purchase.

I am thinking of buying a new truck to pull our winnebago micro Minnie 5th wheel. We currently have a 2006 gmc 2500 . I’d like to go with a smaller truck for gas mileage and was thinking of a Toyota Tundra or GMC 1500 4x4. While the trailer is fairly light and we’ve been told a 1500 can pull this trailer, I’d like to hear other opinions. Is there anyone who has any experience towing smaller 5th wheels with these trucks? . Gross Vehicle Weight is 7000 on the trailer.
  • I would stay with GMC. Although I love Ford suspensions, I own 3 Dodge ram trucks and former 2500 V10 and also former Ford Van owner. According to these recent business news articles Ford has admitted serious quality problems.

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    Ford’s Massive Mistake, Another Blow
    Story by Douglas A. McIntyre • Sunday

    "The Ford Motor Company may be America's least lucky public corporation or its most poorly run. After component problems with its new F-150 Lightning, battered earnings, and trouble pricing its vehicles, it has recalled several of its vehicles, including its flagship gas-powered F-150 pickup. The total recall adds up to 1.5 million vehicles.
    Ford’s recalls involve two problems. One is that windshield wipers can break. The other is that some brakes can leak fluid. The brake problem involves 1.2 million of its 2013 through 2018 Ford Fusions and Lincoln MKZs. The other recall involves 222,000 F-150 2021 vehicles."

    "Both of these recalls are a reminder of Ford’s sloppy work. Ford recently said it would take at least two years to improve its quality to industry standards. It is hard to believe that a global manufacturer with a century of car experience could take so long to remedy its problems.

    Ford does less right than any of its competitors. In the third quarter of last year, it missed its earnings by $1 billion, mostly because it got its component cost estimates wrong. Ford’s fourth-quarter numbers were another earnings disappointment.

    Ford has had trouble launching its F-150 Lightning which Executive Chairman Bill Ford said was the company’s most important launch in a century. There were faults with the EV’s batteries."

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/ford-s-massive-mistake-another-blow/ar-AA18OOQT?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=0e43bceee26a413b8655a545b53c8ba0&ei=8

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    Ford is about to break out big EV losses for the first time
    Story by Michael Wayland • Yesterday 8:00 AM

    Wall Street Journal March 24, 2023 Front Page top story

    "Ford Says
    EV Unit
    Will Lose
    $3 Billion
    This Year
    Company rolls out new
    projections as finance
    chief describes the
    division as a startup"

    As stated, Ford admits they have serious quality control issues.
  • Some FWs with a GVWR of 10K are still advertised as 1/2 ton towable. This is a bit of a stretch, but the OPs FW has a 7K GVWR. Many (not all) 1/2 tons could carry the pin of his trailer.

    Toyotas are not known for getting good gas mileage. Most gasser trucks will get similar mileage towing 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton.

    If you want good mileage, not towing, the Ford turbos are good, and offer heaps of power, when towing. The RAWR varies, so keep that in mind for FW towing.

    Jerry
  • It all up to the cargo capacity of the 1/2 ton truck. I know Ford has the the Heavy Duty Payload Package (HDPP) available on the lower trim models that increases payload significantly. If GM has a similar option, that could handle a smaller 5er.
    I’ve not seen a successful 5er with a Toyota and saw pics and read stories about unsuccessful ones led on by salesmen.
  • What is your tongue weight? What is the payload available on the truck you are looking at? Is that 7000 lbs loaded or dry weight? My 5th wheel is 8500 lbs on the tires, but almost 11K when you consider pin weight.

    It mostly about those 2 numbers, but you also need to consider the stability of the setup with a 1/2 ton truck. Also, is a 1/2 ton truck really smaller than a 3/4 ton as far as the width, length? I don't know if I have ever seen a toyota towing a 5th wheel. Is a Tundra a true 1/2 ton?