Grit dog wrote:
StirCrazy wrote:
not nessasarly true. you CAN get a 2500 that has a special package that will bring it close to the 3500
Steve
^ Somewhat correct, although it's still all fuzzy math with no meaningful physical changes to the vehicles themselves. (Although the Ford Camper package option still appears to add some spring capacity to F250s)
Aside from that, it's all just numbers, no substance for the various ratings. And inconsistent in application.
Example, F250, typical 10kgvw, but optional up to 10.8k or 10.9k, but only with the diesel. Yet the new F350 SRWs dont get above 11.3 or 11.5k, whereas Ram and GM have srws rated in the low 12k's.
And I'm confident when I say none of the brands have meaningful changes that would make them more or less capable within the weights we're talking about, or at all really.
That's why these discussions are so fun. and why some of us try to explain this, to keep folks who don't understand or, frankly, care from chasing their tails.
It could be construed as a sales ploy by the mfgs to boost sales by people who "have" to upgrade their "wimpy" 10k gvw 3/4 ton to a "big strong" 11-12+k gvw 1 ton.
Sale #1 "That F250 will haul anything!" Buyer has big grin on his face from the new truck smell. Buyer looks to use the truck for truck stuff and reads the door sticker and has doubts. Talks to dealer, dealer says "Oh no, I wish your almost new F250 could haul that, but alas, look at the payload....we'll give you a good trade in on this shiny new new F350 sittin over here and THEN you'll be safe!"
generaly the f250 amd f350 of the same year have the same weight in that configuration so that extra 2000 lbs that you can get is all payload. I do know for my old 99 f250 the leave springs were the only thing different in that year and my 14 f350 has a different spring pack than the f250, other than that they are the same and with in 30 lbs dry weight. so if that 3/4 tone was rated to 10K, and my 350 of the same year is rated to 11.5K then that extra 1.5K is all payload capacity . but thats not the only reason for buying a f350. here where I live we have a luxery vehicle tax which is bassed off the value of the vehicle. 1 ton trucks are exempt from this tax which actualy makes them cheeper than a 3/4 ton truc so 3/4 ton truck are rather rare up here. so in my case I spent less money to get more leagal payload capacity, unlike the US we cant just pay for more capacity on our registration to make us leagal, we actualy have to be with in the numbers. ;)
Steve
