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- LantleyNomad
Briand wrote:
The campground will obviously have to charge you for it, ban them or start charging for water per use. But either way, unless every camp site has them every night, it is likely not to make much difference in Elec or H20.
Lets say that you have an old RV that uses 5 gallons per minute for the shower. lets say you have 6 people in your camper and everyone takes a 15 minute shower everyday for a week.
Your total usage for a week would be 3150 gallons.
Compared to 2 people that use the same showers, the usage is 1050. 1300 with a hot tub.
If they start taking 60 minute showers is it the same headache as a hot tub? Are you going to ban them as well?
Even if your reduce the water per hr for a shower to 2.5, the family of 6 is > 30% more than the couple with a hot tub. It's just not fair to penalize any fees or policy based on the fact that they draw more electricity or not.
If they ban these due to water usages or electricity, it is under some false guise that these take more water or electricity than normal appliances, which really they do not.
If you start considering hairdriers, clothes driers, toasters, ovens and all the other electric stuff that a family can use, the real cause of high electricity will be number of people not whether you have a hot tub.
Trust me, I think it would be really cool, if they banned families and only let us adults enjoy camp grounds. much more quiet and relaxing.
IMO, the real concern here is respect for other campers, noise, nuisances and all that. As long as everyone is playing well together I don't really care. Then again, most of the camping I do is boondocking, so there are no rules about hottubs and you'd have to burn a lot of gas to get one up to temp, unless it is wood fired or propane.
Your comments above are why many CG's have added per person fees to their base rates. Additional kids are now extra with or without hot tub! at many CG's. - SCVJeffExplorer
proxim2020 wrote:
Too late. That's already been built and a high end architectural item. It has a copper coil jutting out that you build a fire under. Not exactly portable
OP - Thanks for sharing. I like the idea of free heat from the fire pit. It wouldn't be difficult to rig up a coil that you can put above the pit. - BriandExplorerThe campground will obviously have to charge you for it, ban them or start charging for water per use. But either way, unless every camp site has them every night, it is likely not to make much difference in Elec or H20.
Lets say that you have an old RV that uses 5 gallons per minute for the shower. lets say you have 6 people in your camper and everyone takes a 15 minute shower everyday for a week.
Your total usage for a week would be 3150 gallons.
Compared to 2 people that use the same showers, the usage is 1050. 1300 with a hot tub.
If they start taking 60 minute showers is it the same headache as a hot tub? Are you going to ban them as well?
Even if your reduce the water per hr for a shower to 2.5, the family of 6 is > 30% more than the couple with a hot tub. It's just not fair to penalize any fees or policy based on the fact that they draw more electricity or not.
If they ban these due to water usages or electricity, it is under some false guise that these take more water or electricity than normal appliances, which really they do not.
If you start considering hairdriers, clothes driers, toasters, ovens and all the other electric stuff that a family can use, the real cause of high electricity will be number of people not whether you have a hot tub.
Trust me, I think it would be really cool, if they banned families and only let us adults enjoy camp grounds. much more quiet and relaxing.
IMO, the real concern here is respect for other campers, noise, nuisances and all that. As long as everyone is playing well together I don't really care. Then again, most of the camping I do is boondocking, so there are no rules about hottubs and you'd have to burn a lot of gas to get one up to temp, unless it is wood fired or propane. - krobbeExplorer
camperforlife wrote:
krobbe wrote:
At a rate of 11cents kW/hr it'll cost about $4/day or $120/month if the heater ran constant. Your mileage may vary.
If hot tubs cost that much to heat they wouldn't sell any. Our 575 gallon hot tub raised our light bill $8.00 a month and we are in a cold climate.
Well, I did stipulate "if the heater ran constant".
If it cost you $8 a month, and your heater is 1500W, then it only ran for 48hrs for the whole month. (if your electric rate is 11cents per kW/hr) - RVcircusExplorer IIThat's pretty awesome!!! Now I just need to make sure my wife NEVER sees that photo;)
- westernrvparkowExplorer
Briand wrote:
They would be banned for liability reasons. See what kind of precautions are required for securing a pool or hot tub and you will understand why they can't be allowed. It would also deal death to any grass underneath it, and you can bet people wouldn't be satisfied being told it had to be set up on the parking pad. What would be neat, however, is to see what was left of one left out in my area over night. The elk and deer would most likely thrash it to little pieces. I think one would be great in the right location (remote boondocking etc.) but they aren't going to be welcome in a private campground.rjxj wrote:
cknsls beat me to it. You are the reason they will start metering electricity.
I'm just joking but they probably would say not allowed or you have to pay extra for the elec. Anyway that is a great idea. The wonders of plastic and it's many uses.
Is that a gfi plug? It is sort of scary to think of water, electricity and RV park wiring all at the same time!!!! :)
No scarier than walking around with an electric pressure washer. I can't see any reason they would ban these. Many people waste that much water and if they are using electric heaters, toasters, toaster ovens, ovens and clothes driers, those are likely to be MUCH more electricity than this little hot tub. - Doug33Explorer
profdant139 wrote:
Think how great it would be to have one of these while boondocking in a really remote location! You could float around at night, looking up at the stars, even on a cold evening. Heavenly!
Unfortunately, I would not want to run my generator all the time to heat the water -- maybe a wood fired portable hot tub, filled with water from a mountain stream??
It'll never happen, at least not for me. Fun idea, though.
That's what I do in my hot tub at home, so no need to have at the CG. ;) - Community AlumniOP - Thanks for sharing. I like the idea of free heat from the fire pit. It wouldn't be difficult to rig up a coil that you can put above the pit.
- carringbExplorerHand up here too! I've been planning on one for a while, but have been struggling to find one folks are happy with, so I think this one might be a winner! I'll pack my own water if I need to (which is probably, since mostly I boondocks).
- westendExplorerHand up!
LOL, I guess I need that second solar panel. If I run the supply water through a pipe over the fire pit, I guess it will heat up pretty fast. When I'm done soaking, I can hook up the little 12 V bilge pump and I've got a free car wash.:B
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