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Nov 01, 2019Explorer
free radical wrote:stsmark wrote:
So in the article,
Globally, it's a different story, since fossil-fuel Hyundai semi-tractors are sold in more than 100 countries, and the company's zero-emission truck future is starting outside the U.S. as well. Hyundai will also deliver the first of 1600 hydrogen-powered semi-tractors to companies in Switzerland later this year. While the powertrain in these trucks is zero emission, the look is a more standard cab-over design based on Hyundai's XCient truck.
Should be interesting when they hit Switzerland .
Zero emisions?
In your dreams.
Hydrogen is made mostly from fosil fuels.
Look up how much it costs to make hydrogen and what infrastructure it needs to fuel these things.
EV are cheaper and better
Hydrogen is made from electrolysis, splitting water into hydrogen and oxygen using the same electricity you would use to charge the EV. We have not looked at Hyundai much but we will, we're already about 100% decided on Nikola trucks someday being in our yard and are on their list. A Nikola fuel station supposedly will also have its own onsite solar farm, but still require connection to the same grid that an EV charging station requires. I suspect the Hyundai and others will propose some sort of similar arrangement but at some point it will not be brand specific. Any argument about fossil fuel is a moot point. You're going to have electricity generated by burning natural gas for at least the next 50 years or they would not be building all of these gas fired plants.
Trucking is a cutthroat business all based on range and weight. If you were not two cents cheaper per mile than the next guy that load behind you would not be there and that's all the shipper cares about. The Nikola will have more range and way less weight due to less batteries required than a Tesla or any other battery based truck, and I assume the Hyundai will be the same. The more your tractor weighs, the less your able to haul, its 2nd grade math based on subtracting everything from 80K lbs. Everyone on this board will be long in the dirt before seeing diesel trucks not on the road regardless.
Where do you come up with the battery based EV is better and cheaper?
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