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- bigfootfordNomad II
mkirsch wrote:
Respectfully, Wayne, yes they do bounce up and down. They may not "flop around" but they do bounce up and down every time the truck bounces up and down. It may not be visible to the naked eye but there is extra stress being put on the mounts with each and every hoop-de-doo in the road, each and every pothole. It's all about inertia.
If the mounting is not adequate, such as if the generator were strapped directly to the ladder, imperceptible motion would slowly become perceptible motion, then "flopping around" and finally the ladder with generator laying in the middle of the Interstate somewhere.
Uh? With over 100,000 miles on my camper with the generator rack carrying the generator, traveling on 90% back roads, Alaska, Dalton, Dempster etc, rough roads and not one loose bolt I guess the Flopping around is not occurring because my generator is still there.....
Maybe it's not flopping and bouncing up and down because of the bolt that holds the rack to the jack bracket is doing what it was designed to do.
47lbs/ 8 bolts and the loop at the top of the later then mounting on the roof is too much weight for your comfort level on each of those bolts. My roof to ladder bracket's sealant has not cracked and the screws are still tight after the 16 years I have had the camper with all that flopping around going on as you say.
Why do you say "They may not flop around" and then 3 sentences later say, "Flopping around will occur"? Geez - bigfootfordNomad IIPost deleted by Bigfootford due to rv.net edit problems.
Jim - Reddog1Explorer IImkirsch, I see your post as simply being argumentative.
Wayne - mkirschNomad IIRespectfully, Wayne, yes they do bounce up and down. They may not "flop around" but they do bounce up and down every time the truck bounces up and down. It may not be visible to the naked eye but there is extra stress being put on the mounts with each and every hoop-de-doo in the road, each and every pothole. It's all about inertia.
If the mounting is not adequate, such as if the generator were strapped directly to the ladder, imperceptible motion would slowly become perceptible motion, then "flopping around" and finally the ladder with generator laying in the middle of the Interstate somewhere. - bigfootfordNomad IIMy ladder has 8 bolts holding it to the side of the camper....
The ladder tubing is bent at the top and curves 180 deg and mounts on the top of the camper.
Any downward pressure, climbing on the ladder or static weight is distributed through those bolts and the tubing of the ladder. I have no doubt that there is enough strength to accomplish carrying the 3000.
Mind is a bit different that Wayne's. The drivers corner of the rack frame is anchored to the jack bracket. So at least 1/4 of the weight is supported there in that corner. Anchoring the rack there also creates a firm hold on the rack so there is absolutely no left right movement nor any up down movement in that corner, that could be detrimental to the ladder bolts..
Wayne's Rack is what he calls REV 3.... He added the angled tubing that you can see to have the outside/rear, passenger side of the rack secured there and to the jack bracket so there is no up down flexing of the rack to the ladder bolts as mine was done.
This is not a low skill fabrication project.
Wayne is a great fabricator and welder...
Jim - Reddog1Explorer II
omiles wrote:
I think if you use the Jack mounts as I did, you would have no problem. The jack mounts support well over 50% of the weight. Without the stabilizing braces to my ladder, my Honda is totally supported by the jack mounts. It will have the tendency to move side to side, that is why I installed the ladder brace.
@phil good question, I have a Briggs & Stratton p3000, similar wight to the Honda 3000. Not sure that would support the 85 lbs...
I respectfully think you guys are overthinking this. I weigh about 290 pounds, and I climb my ladder with the gas and Honda mounted. Never a problem. The gas or Honda do not bounce up and down. Plus the fact, The Honda has over 50% if not all of its weight on the jack mounts. The jack mounts are strong enough to raise the rear of your 4000 lb TC. - JoeChiOhkiExplorer II
I had a basket custom made for my old one, that attached to the left camper jack tube in three spots.
Other than a poor initial choice in clamps, it worked well for over 10,000 miles across the country.
Sadly, it won't fit on the Amerigo, so unless I find a new use, it'll likely go with the KIT when its sold. - omilesExplorer@phil good question, I have a Briggs & Stratton p3000, similar wight to the Honda 3000. Not sure that would support the 85 lbs...
- meleavingsoonExplorerDo you think a Honda 3000 could be installed in a similar fashion?...or is that too much weight?
- bigfootfordNomad IIHere is another version of Reddog1's design... He did the fabrication I was the helper...
This design/concept has traveled about 100,000 miles to Prudhoe Bay, across the USA 2 times and it has never come loose or offered any doubt about it's strength.
If I need to get up on the roof via the ladder I use the rack as a step with the gen still on it... 50lbs for the honda and 200 for me...
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