If you are from Texas...Cybertruck can power a house

It seems Canada and Europe are going fast on solar and renewables.

For us here in the US, CA and WA are leading it. CA's new homes are all with new solar panels and the state is targeting 2035 for the year to be totally off carbon as electricity sources.

Dam building is out. Blasted a few and there is even a strong clamor to blast that Hetch Hetchy Dam which people say cover an area more beautiful than the Village at Yosemite.

We, however, have excess of desserts to place those solar panels and those cancer causing windmills (err, wind turbines) going whoom, whoom... with our wind channels through canyons and gas in mountain ranges.

"Hi Yosemite Sam1,

It would operate in the same manner as a hybrid grid tied system (i.e. a solar farm with battery storage).

The meter would need to be upgraded. The owner would be reimbursed for power that was drawn from their BEV to help stabilize the grid."

Maybe I am mis-reading this, but what I read is....
"Charge up your BEV from the grid (through a converter, the charging system). Then use the power you just stored to "sell back" to the grid (through an inverter, like a solar hybrid system, but not, because you just bought the power yesterday from the same source you are selling it back to today)."

Not even considering the investment in the battery bank (the cyber truck) or the degradation of the batteries going though daily charge/discharge cycles while physically not hauling your butt anywhere on the road as vehicles are designed to do, by the time you buy the power convert it twice and sell it back, you'd better have some David Copperfield sht up your sleeve to not have this actually cost money.

Tell me what I missed.

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

pianotuna wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

Ok, back to EV powering a house.

Is there a special connection for the EV to power the home or it's just like the straight up connection between the RV and the trailer puller? Crazier question, how would you prevent it from powering the entire neighbourhood? Pulling down the main switch?

Yeah, I have not heard of such feature like that here in the US..

Hi Yosemite Sam1,

It would operate in the same manner as a hybrid grid tied system (i.e. a solar farm with battery storage).

The meter would need to be upgraded. The owner would be reimbursed for power that was drawn from their BEV to help stabilize the grid.

In the case of a power outage, where one wishes to still have power, a relay would disconnect the home from the grid.

@pianotuna

Thanks, this now makes sense to me.:o

And I would think that with the upgraded meter and all, there will be sensors and would thus be automatic.

Nooo, it's actually nothing like a hybrid grid system, save for the last part about disconnecting the residence from the grid.
A simple manual transfer switch and preferably one with a small sub panel that contains the circuits you wish to run on emergency power is all that's needed.

Yes, you can use automatic transfer switches as well, but why would you with an emergency power source that you had to manually activate (plug in)?

Why would you ever want to try to help power the rest of the grid in a power outage situation with the battery pack in your EV?
Aside from not wanting to, you couldn't. That's the whole point of isolating your emergency power, so you don't fry a lineman.

I had a manual transfer switch at my home. I chose six circuits that provided for the furnace, fridge, freezer, computer, light in the bathroom, and a few wall plugs. I never came close to overloading the Kipor Ti3000 generator (2800 VA). That part of the technology is well established.

If every home had 14 kwh of storage, the grid would be far less likely to fall over. Having a BEV connected to the grid may be under the category of "enlightened self interest". Examples are water, and sewer services.

If every new home was required to have 5 KW of solar panels it would go a long ways to reducing power bills. Add the BEV into the mix and each house has the ability to be autonomous.

With panel prices under $1 per watt, and the cost of a single nuclear plant at $5.50 per watt (low ball price) makes about zero sense to me to use nuclear power.

Oil and gas are far to valuable to be being burned, and there is not an infinite supply.

Yeah, it makes sense only to use the CT for emergency power back up either to the house or the RV.

The trick would be to wire the house transfer switch for the CT to supply power to the house but not to itself. When the rolling blackout comes on intermittently for the day you could capture that utility power to partially recharge the CT. Although I do wonder if CT will allow the vehicle to charge if it is also supplying power.

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

pianotuna wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

Ok, back to EV powering a house.

Is there a special connection for the EV to power the home or it's just like the straight up connection between the RV and the trailer puller? Crazier question, how would you prevent it from powering the entire neighbourhood? Pulling down the main switch?

Yeah, I have not heard of such feature like that here in the US..

Hi Yosemite Sam1,

It would operate in the same manner as a hybrid grid tied system (i.e. a solar farm with battery storage).

The meter would need to be upgraded. The owner would be reimbursed for power that was drawn from their BEV to help stabilize the grid.

In the case of a power outage, where one wishes to still have power, a relay would disconnect the home from the grid.

@pianotuna

Thanks, this now makes sense to me.:o

And I would think that with the upgraded meter and all, there will be sensors and would thus be automatic.

Here in Alberta an emergency connection can be set up using a transfer switch at the service entrance to the home. When it senses power from your EV or other generator it disconnects the grid.

The penalty here for connecting in any other manner (like a double male extension cord stuck in a wall socket) that could power the grid and injure a lineman working on the system 10 miles away starts at $25,000.00 and goes up from there. It is not appreciated.

Other than needing emergency power, why would you use grid energy to charge an EV then put that energy back into the grid, thereby using your EV batteries "number of lifetime cycles"?

I know this is the idea behind low price charge high price return power to the grid battery banks, but using a vehicle's system for this doesn't make sense. Unless replacing either battery costs the same...

pianotuna wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

Ok, back to EV powering a house.

Is there a special connection for the EV to power the home or it's just like the straight up connection between the RV and the trailer puller? Crazier question, how would you prevent it from powering the entire neighbourhood? Pulling down the main switch?

Yeah, I have not heard of such feature like that here in the US..

Hi Yosemite Sam1,

It would operate in the same manner as a hybrid grid tied system (i.e. a solar farm with battery storage).

The meter would need to be upgraded. The owner would be reimbursed for power that was drawn from their BEV to help stabilize the grid.

In the case of a power outage, where one wishes to still have power, a relay would disconnect the home from the grid.

@pianotuna

Thanks, this now makes sense to me.:o

And I would think that with the upgraded meter and all, there will be sensors and would thus be automatic.

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

Ok, back to EV powering a house.

Is there a special connection for the EV to power the home or it's just like the straight up connection between the RV and the trailer puller? Crazier question, how would you prevent it from powering the entire neighbourhood? Pulling down the main switch?

Yeah, I have not heard of such feature like that here in the US..

Hi Yosemite Sam1,

It would operate in the same manner as a hybrid grid tied system (i.e. a solar farm with battery storage).

The meter would need to be upgraded. The owner would be reimbursed for power that was drawn from their BEV to help stabilize the grid.

In the case of a power outage, where one wishes to still have power, a relay would disconnect the home from the grid.

fj12ryder wrote:
Thanks, I knew they weren't in production yet, I just wanted the individual who keeps referring to them as though they actually were being produced...

Geez, you are putting that on someone's else's mouth... and then hair split and dispute it as if someone else but yourself post it even ignoring the basic English construction of future to present tense.:):S

And playing dumb about word meanings of made, manufactured, assembled to claim that others (us) already said it's on commercial production.

Ok, back to EV powering a house.

Is there a special connection for the EV to power the home or it's just like the straight up connection between the RV and the trailer puller? Crazier question, how would you prevent it from powering the entire neighbourhood? Pulling down the main switch?

Yeah, I have not heard of such feature like that here in the US..