If your thinking of buying a new Super Duty

301TBS wrote:
It should now be called white corrosion. I have that on my F150 hood and the hood and liftgate of my previous vehicle, a Ford Expedition. A horrible mess and very expensive to repair.

Aluminum oxide - go to the hardware look at the back of sandpapers , a lot are al oxide.
pretty tough stuff.
Don't rub up against a old pickup ;)

All I can say is it's about time they modernized, 18 years on the same platform and not being able to meet SAE with their own claims is long enough. Now all three should be posting SAE J2807 numbers not just making silly claims.

OMG what are people going to say when they do a frame twist test and the tailgate opens and closes?

Should be a really nice truck!

I can't imagine that this change will increase prices by $4k - $5k. That will make them too uncompetitive with the other brands.

The F150s didn't get that cost increase.

I was thinking about trading in 17, but if the bucks go up 4 to 5 large, I just may be rumbling down the road in my 2012. :(

I would imagine the down time for repairs would be pretty long. Are all body shops up to speed and what about parts?

Did I read somewhere that not all Ford cabs are created equal? There was an article on here a few weeks ago that the crash safety test on cabs that had an additional beam on the doors and front structure on standard cabs to meet safety requirements that is not on the upscale models?

gmc851 wrote:
From the article "military-grade, aluminum alloy, which is more dent- and ding-resistant than the outgoing steel body and not subject to red rust corrosion"

RED RUST CORROSION. Interesting choice of words.

Is that like FeO2 ?.:B

Their frame has caught up to the competition. Much more Rigid now. They've also re-invested the weight savings into adding more mass to the components, basically stronger leafs/axles/bearings, etc...

They surpass the competition in technology, but I personally don't like having too much in electronics.

Also, neat factoid. The cab section (firewall to rear wall) is the exact same as the F-150. So they're taking a page from what the competitors are currently doing and re-using the same cab structure to get better economies of scales with the aluminum. Helps to spread the cost of development and the superduty gets a good interior to boot as well. Nice thing is they keep the bed and front end unique to the superduty, which is more a subtle difference for RAM and GM products. I like it, and if the 2017 was on sale back in 2013, I can honestly say I don't know if I'd have a RAM.

They will be more $$ but if you look closer at them they have some good safety items that most have had to do as aftermarket.
Other features include
- Adaptive Front Steering for better trailer handling
- Trailer Tire Pressure Monitoring System for on-road confidence
- There are also up to seven available cameras that monitor the world 360º around you. There’s even a camera available for the back of your trailer. And they all feed into one screen where you can keep your eye on whatever view you want.

7 cameras and LED accent lights. My 2015 is going up for sale!

Seriously, the frame change and tailgate would be nice but I'm not too interested in the aluminum. Key fob lock/unlock gate could have saved me a fortune...