If your thinking of buying a new Super Duty

Here is the quote;

"Engines include the carryover 6.2-liter V8 gasoline engine on the F-250 only, as well as the 6.8-liter V10 gasoline engines and there is a 6.7-liter V8 turbo-diesel engine. There is a new six-speed transmission for the F-250."

The link to the info is below:

Link

CWSWine wrote:
In 2017 the engine chooses change. The 6.2 will only be in the F250 only and will not be in the F350. The F350 will get the gas V10 or the Diesel.

Where did you get that info the V10 is going in the 350 pickup????

Don't think so. V10 will only be available in the chassis cabs as they are today.

The 6.2 will have an increase in specs and the F250 will have a different transmission with the gas engine.

up2nogood wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:
I'm all for aluminum... Owned a galvanized boat trailer that was used in saltwater that lasted about 6 years and was toast during a time when most all boat trailers were fabricated out of galvanized steel. Today I currently own an aluminum boat trailer that's used in the salt that's 12 years old and the only parts ever replaced where the axles and leaf springs again galvanized parts. I would estimate that all saltwater boats sold today comes on a aluminum trailer simply because they last.

Also owned a 98 F150 that I sold after 7 years 150k miles with no issues on it's aluminum hood. I still see this truck ~1/year and it still has the original hood/paint with no issues after 17 years and over 350k miles.

Well mine is 15 years old and is still in great shape. Used in salt water only.

Wow I haven't seen a galvanized boat trailer in years. There almost obsolete now and all saltwater boats here come only on aluminum trailers and for good reasons

We galvanized boat trailers by the hundreds, and was still doing so when I retired in 2010, still being done.

Me thinks the Salt Water in Texas is different than in NW WA. ;)

In 2017 the engine chooses change. The 6.2 will only be in the F250 only and will not be in the F350. The F350 will get the gas V10 or the Diesel.

Bionic Man wrote:

N-Trouble wrote:

Redterpos3 wrote:
Part of the reason why I jumped in and bought a 2016. Some of the tech is going to be cool though! Love the idea of the 360 sensors, and my saleman was telling me about the joystick device to park your trailer using the backup camera. I'll let a few years go by and hopefully the kinks, and then who knows!

For the soccer moms who don't know how to back a trailer...

Spend some time observing at a boat ramp on a busy holiday weekend, and you might change your opinion of that option.....

And, for the record, I think Ford is ahead of the game going aluminum. Gotta do something to raise CAFE ratings.

Lol, yeah. Keeping Ferd #1 in sales will be supported wholly by every wanna be trucker that can't even back his boat into the lake without making a scene!

skidooman93 wrote:

RedRocket204 wrote:

skidooman93 wrote:
Not speculating at all, move to a state that has winters like Minnesota and uses chemicals on the roads like they do here and see what happens I have first hand experience with aluminum body panels that the paint has bubbled and flaked just like steel. Metal isn't effected so much as the paint comes loose because of the corrosion.

OK, I'll bite.


What brand/model and year car or cars?

The aluminum panels you had bubbled and flaked just like steel but you stated earlier:

skidooman93 wrote:
... it carodes just as easy and easier in some cases.

:h

Your Minnesota winter comment is laughable because I'm sure no where compares at all.


What about painted aluminum alloy wheels, how do those hold up? Seems there are a huge percentage of cars that have had those for many, many years. How come there aren't many complaints about those? Again, materials defects and process defects are a different story.


The comment a number of posts ago, "scare mongering" was dead on concerning the paranoia purposely being spread by known Ford bashers with agendas on this site. Not sure why some of you are so hellbent on constantly trashing Ford... except for having that agenda. Why not spend your energy posting positive comments on the brand you support and like best?

You know, a lot of you doing this trashing on rv.net are older... but really, you need to grow up.

Checkout any car with an aluminum hood. I own one a 08 Chrysler Sebring. Pant is bubbling at corners.

Apparently you don't have much experience with Minnesota roads either. Painted aluminum wheels have all sorts of corrosion issues here so do chromed aluminum. It the reason most manufacturers use a glued on chrome plastic cover on aluminum wheels it doesn't corrode like the aluminum underneath does.

I'm not bashing ford BTW, just explaining don't get caught up in the marketing hype about aluminum bodies not rusting. It is true they won't rust but they will corrode and look just as bad. Ford is doing it for weight savings and think they can use the no rust to their advantage.

I did. Zero bubbles, flaking, or any other defects on my F150. Over 10 years in Michigan winters. Paint and corrosion has been a thorn that rears its ugly head since we have been painting vehicles. I am sure you will find examples of rusted steel hoods.

I am not familiar with chrome clad aluminum wheels. All the ones I have seen are cleared. All the chrome clad are steel wheels around here. I understand your position but just because you had issues with an aluminum hood does not mean they all have issues.

RedRocket204 wrote:

skidooman93 wrote:
Not speculating at all, move to a state that has winters like Minnesota and uses chemicals on the roads like they do here and see what happens I have first hand experience with aluminum body panels that the paint has bubbled and flaked just like steel. Metal isn't effected so much as the paint comes loose because of the corrosion.

OK, I'll bite.


What brand/model and year car or cars?

The aluminum panels you had bubbled and flaked just like steel but you stated earlier:

skidooman93 wrote:
... it carodes just as easy and easier in some cases.

:h

Your Minnesota winter comment is laughable because I'm sure no where compares at all.


What about painted aluminum alloy wheels, how do those hold up? Seems there are a huge percentage of cars that have had those for many, many years. How come there aren't many complaints about those? Again, materials defects and process defects are a different story.


The comment a number of posts ago, "scare mongering" was dead on concerning the paranoia purposely being spread by known Ford bashers with agendas on this site. Not sure why some of you are so hellbent on constantly trashing Ford... except for having that agenda. Why not spend your energy posting positive comments on the brand you support and like best?

You know, a lot of you doing this trashing on rv.net are older... but really, you need to grow up.

Checkout any car with an aluminum hood. I own one a 08 Chrysler Sebring. Pant is bubbling at corners.

Apparently you don't have much experience with Minnesota roads either. Painted aluminum wheels have all sorts of corrosion issues here so do chromed aluminum. It the reason most manufacturers use a glued on chrome plastic cover on aluminum wheels it doesn't corrode like the aluminum underneath does.

I'm not bashing ford BTW, just explaining don't get caught up in the marketing hype about aluminum bodies not rusting. It is true they won't rust but they will corrode and look just as bad. Ford is doing it for weight savings and think they can use the no rust to their advantage.

Alu based 'home'

Boeing737...proof alu bodied will last forever...still not a fan of
ALU pickup beds...

PRodacy wrote:

You do realize that planes get repainted every couple of years, and the paint they use often costs over $1000 per gallon.

Yep, but I'm more concerned about the metal than the paint, which was the basis for my comment about preferring a durable truck over a pretty one.

Frankly, even if the paint all peels off, and it looks like a DeLorean, I'm ok with it, as long as the body lasts a long time. I realize I'm not typical in that opinion. It's a truck. It's going to get muddy, haul stuff to the dump, and have bikes and wood thrown in the bed every weekend. I'll be as hard on the paint as the elements will.

Then again, the red paint on my old Lund aluminum fishing boat held up pretty well over the years, despite being outside all the time, and abused with docks, rocks, and tackle. I suppose it wasn't a deep, glossy car quality finish.. but it was tough. Back to the durable versus pretty, I guess.

jtallon wrote:

minnow wrote:


Airstream ? When was the last time you saw an painted Airstream. Paint can't flake off of a metal it was never used on. And Airliners ? I doubt 99.9% of people would have any idea if a painted commerical airliner was having a peeling paint issue. The fact that they fly 600 mph also may be a factor as compared to 80 mph on a roadway for a Mustang.

If the metal holds up to the weather and abuse of being outside in the elements for decades, and traveling at 600mph, then I'd be happy to have it on my truck, where it'll see far less severe duty.

Perfecting the paint process would be great. But I'll take durable over pretty for my truck pretty much every time. Though I admit I might reverse that decision if I drove a Mustang.

You do realize that planes get repainted every couple of years, and the paint they use often costs over $1000 per gallon.