In 2 years time I can no longer afford to buy a camper

Historically the RV industry changed model years in March. I've read a rumor that the industry is trying to standardize all manufacturers in changing on July 1. Either way, 2022 models of RVs on the dealer lot next fall will be a model year behind, should carry a dramatic discount, and could have been sitting there for quite a while.

My opinion, some of which has been covered above--
Price = Demand - Supply (Econ 101). I went into my favorite wholesale price dealer in Shipshewana, IN in March of 2020. While there I asked how sales were going. Answer: a little slow. When I went back in May they were wiped out of inventory. This dealer has a close relationship with the factories in the next county. By 2021 he was reporting factories suspending production for lack of parts (China being a big part of the problem.) So, crazy demand combined with parts shortages ran the prices up. Now, I believe that the myth of a shortage is being perpetuated by dealers and manufacturers such as Thor bragging about its backlog of orders to keep prices high. As we traveled from Indiana to Florida and part way back this winter, the RV lots are all full. There is plenty of supply. This supply will work to the OP's advantage as he waits to Fall. This also gives time to research. I believe that there still is the typical 35% profit margin in RVs at the dealer level. As aptly described earlier, saying NO is the best way to drop the price. Also, IMHO, buying used is not a guarantee that everything is fixed--it totally depends on the prior owner.

restlessways wrote:
Yeah, and I'm starting to think we just hit a massive blow-off top in everything, with the high fuel prices being an exclamation point. These prices are in no way sustainable, and I am seeing some of the greediest for sale listings imaginable. People are free to ask whatever they want, of course, but it kind of shows poor character when you want $30,0000 for a 15 year old camper. It's like everybody's looking for a sucker. Really gross.

It's worth that. After all, just look at what a new one would cost you!

You've got to realize the dollar of 15 years ago isn't the same dollar you're spending today. What something cost new has nothing to do with its value today. When there is little to no inflation it does go as you'd expect but when the price of everything suddenly doubles overnight, you're still in the mindset of it being a linear time against number of dollars scale.

Of course our salaries didn't double overnight...

...and honestly, I don't believe a lot of this "shortage" BS. It's a convenient excuse to charge more in many cases. If people would just calm down and go back to their normal purchasing regimen and stop panic buying and hoarding everything, there would be no "shortage" of anything.

ticki2 wrote:
I’m having a hard time believing your 6.0 gaser is getting 15 mpg loaded with a camper

Well, 400miles til the gas light is on, on a long bed would be about 11.5mpg. So your math skills are horrible. May wanna check that out.
And the person getting 11mpg in a gasser hauling a TC is either embellishing a bit or they drive slow as f u ck!

restlessways wrote:

time2roll wrote:

restlessways wrote:
Hell no. I was going to buy a Northern Lite 2 years ago and they were $44k. Now they are asking as much as $76k for the same model. At that rate you can count me out. I thought the $44k was a lot.

The world has gone mad with items in short supply. I suppose same as new vehicles... no more discounts, put your name in on a wait list, no choice of color or trim level, and good luck negotiating the ADM down as the next buyer will take it before the end of the day.

Best to be patient for now or look for a used item.

Housing, mortgages, and rent are the same situation.

Yeah, and I'm starting to think we just hit a massive blow-off top in everything, with the high fuel prices being an exclamation point. These prices are in no way sustainable, and I am seeing some of the greediest for sale listings imaginable. People are free to ask whatever they want, of course, but it kind of shows poor character when you want $30,0000 for a 15 year old camper. It's like everybody's looking for a sucker. Really gross.

In your however many trips around the sun, you’re just now realizing that “people suck”?
ROFL.

restlessways wrote:
Can you guys kindly take your EV discussion somewhere else? Better yet, how about a mod starts a whole new thread with it? I am tired of reading this stuff on my thread, which was about new camper prices.

But your thread was just a pointless complaint about the economy. How much pertinent discussion did you expect? Quit whining…

Found one, very affordable ;)

https://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/30324658.cfm

time2roll wrote:

restlessways wrote:
Hell no. I was going to buy a Northern Lite 2 years ago and they were $44k. Now they are asking as much as $76k for the same model. At that rate you can count me out. I thought the $44k was a lot.

The world has gone mad with items in short supply. I suppose same as new vehicles... no more discounts, put your name in on a wait list, no choice of color or trim level, and good luck negotiating the ADM down as the next buyer will take it before the end of the day.

Best to be patient for now or look for a used item.

Housing, mortgages, and rent are the same situation.

Yeah, and I'm starting to think we just hit a massive blow-off top in everything, with the high fuel prices being an exclamation point. These prices are in no way sustainable, and I am seeing some of the greediest for sale listings imaginable. People are free to ask whatever they want, of course, but it kind of shows poor character when you want $30,0000 for a 15 year old camper. It's like everybody's looking for a sucker. Really gross.

restlessways wrote:
Hell no. I was going to buy a Northern Lite 2 years ago and they were $44k. Now they are asking as much as $76k for the same model. At that rate you can count me out. I thought the $44k was a lot.

The world has gone mad with items in short supply. I suppose same as new vehicles... no more discounts, put your name in on a wait list, no choice of color or trim level, and good luck negotiating the ADM down as the next buyer will take it before the end of the day.

Best to be patient for now or look for a used item.

Housing, mortgages, and rent are the same situation.

Or the newly coined phrase " dynamic pricing" which is meant to overcharge with a smile-