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HMS_Beagle
Feb 25, 2016Explorer
Well I have been all the way through the CVC now, it is a bit of a twisted mess. My conclusion is that a late model dually pickup (GVWR of 14,000) is a commercial vehicle for purposes of registration, must pay weight fees and display tags on GVWR (not unladen weight like a pickup), is not a "pickup" under California law, but, when not operated commercially (which is never defined) is not a commercial vehicle under either the Commercial Motor Vehicle Safety Program provisions, or the Motor Carriers Permit Act (so no special permit, markings, or insurance is required).
Stopping at scales is administrative procedure, rather than law. Any commercial vehicle is required to stop at scales "when signs are displayed requiring the stop". Usually the signs say "No Pickups" but without specifying whether the popular definition or the CVC definition is meant (less than 11,500 GVWR). On the DOT web page, they clearly state that a 14,000 GVWR pickup must stop:
I'm going to try it one day soon and see what happens.
Stopping at scales is administrative procedure, rather than law. Any commercial vehicle is required to stop at scales "when signs are displayed requiring the stop". Usually the signs say "No Pickups" but without specifying whether the popular definition or the CVC definition is meant (less than 11,500 GVWR). On the DOT web page, they clearly state that a 14,000 GVWR pickup must stop:
DO THESE VEHICLES HAVE TO STOP AT THE SCALES?
PICKUP -- It depends on the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR), unladen weight, and bed of the truck.
GVWR under 11,500 pounds, unladen weight of less than 8,001 pounds, and open box-type bed not exceeding 9 feet in length -- NO.
GVWR 11,500 pounds or more, unladen weight 8,001 pounds or more, or not equipped with an open box-type bed not exceeding 9 feet in length -- YES.
I'm going to try it one day soon and see what happens.
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