Or at least my Truck/camper combo is! Just before I left for my recent FIRST adventure in my new to me Lance 1055 into the Lassen and Sierra National Forests I went to a certified scale and got my rig weighed. the totals include 32 gallons of fuel, me at 185lbs, my dog at 65lbs plus all her food/supplies, 2 full propane tanks, 30 gallons of fresh water, 5 gallons bottled water, full food and supplies for 17 days (including some fresh produce) including frozen pork, beef, chicken, etc. 2 six packs of beer, 4 bottles of wine and gin for my martinis, . :D tools and the BBQ (that quick connects directly into the camper propane) In other words, everything and completely loaded to the max. No firewood though, as I always purchase it where I burn it if possible. Here are the numbers:Front axle is rated for 3,800lbsNo camper at the scales with me, tools, and 32gal fuel: 3,460lbsWeight at scales with camper: 3,600lbs.Rear axle is rated for 7,500 lbsNo camper at the scales with me, tools and 32gal fuel: 2,820Weight at scales with camper: 7,120 lbs. So, total camper weight is totally loaded for 17 days is 4,440lbs, and I'm under my GVAR by 580lbs! Yahooo!!! :)Tire rating is not a concern either as I've got a dually with E rated tires.I'm so happy! I absolutely LOVE my new to me camper and feel very confident in it's performance and the safety factor. I have Rancho 9000 on the back but no other suspension modifications. Drives like a dream at 65-70mph with no sway issues in the wind either. Now, I have to gather all the photos, read my daily trip journal and post a trip report! Happy camping everybody!! :)Dak

you have room enough to bring us all souvenirs! P.S. thanks for not transporting firewood.

I think once you load the beer for 17 days, you become overloaded ;)

What is GVAR? And what is your GVWR?

Kayteg1 wrote:I think once you load the beer for 17 days, you become overloaded ;)I think that would depend on how long it took you to drink it. :BWayne

twodownzero wrote:What is GVAR? And what is your GVWR?GVAR is Gross vehicle axle rating and it's 11,300 on my truckGVWR is Gross vehicle weight rating, and standard for a 1996 3500 Chevy dually like mine is 10,000lbs, which would normally bring me 720lbs OVER my GVWR. However, I'm the second owner of my truck and it apparently was a special order. It has some sort of factory commercial add ons with bigger brakes, a thicker sway bar and an additional leaf spring, with a sticker that says the new GVWR from the factory is 10,800lbs. I'm no expert, but I do know from my research and my 28 years of RV/truck experience that it's the axles, brakes and shocks that mostly still make the difference in safety. So with the factory add ons it's still 80lbs under the listed GVWR. The weights I reported in my original post are referring to the Gross axle ratings though... Hope this helps. Like I said. I'm happy. Dak

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mkirsch
Nomad II
Jul 30, 2015
Between the weight of the Powerstroke engine, and all the additional computer and safety equipment that has gone into the average vehicle between 1996 and 2006, it's not hard to find where the bloat is.

They had to thin down the body or else the truck would be that much heavier.
dakonthemountai
Explorer
Jul 30, 2015
languiduck wrote:
My 06 diesel F250 crew cab short bed weighs 7900# empty. I don't carry anything in it, except for a tool kit, a pair of boots, and an umbrella. That difference in weight is crazy!

Is it 2WD?

Yup. 2WD. I know! who would think that a 10 year newer truck w/diesel (yours) would weigh over 1,000lbs more! Yours is also 4WD?...

Dak
Reddog1
Explorer II
Jul 30, 2015
My 1996 Dodge 2500 2WD dsl ext Cab with 8-foot bed weight is 6200 pounds. I think if it were a dually, it would be about 6400 pounds.

Wayne
languiduck
Explorer
Jul 30, 2015
My 06 diesel F250 crew cab short bed weighs 7900# empty. I don't carry anything in it, except for a tool kit, a pair of boots, and an umbrella. That difference in weight is crazy!

Is it 2WD?
dakonthemountai
Explorer
Jul 30, 2015
mkirsch wrote:
languiduck wrote:
Are you saying that unloaded your ext cab dually only weighs 6,400#? That's amazing.

It's a 1996 and presumably a gasser. They built them lighter back then.

My 2002 regular cab DRW weighs 6300 empty, so I definitely believe it. The previous owner showed me the CAT scale ticket to prove it.

Yup. That's what it weighs! I've weighed it before empty when I first got it to see what my old Weekender 910 camper weighed. Yes, it's a gasser also.. It's when they started cheaping out with thinner metal and bumpers..Actuallly, they started that in 1987 when this body style first came out.

Dak
mkirsch
Nomad II
Jul 30, 2015
languiduck wrote:
Are you saying that unloaded your ext cab dually only weighs 6,400#? That's amazing.

It's a 1996 and presumably a gasser. They built them lighter back then.

My 2002 regular cab DRW weighs 6300 empty, so I definitely believe it. The previous owner showed me the CAT scale ticket to prove it.
Ace_
Explorer
Jul 30, 2015
That's the part that surprises me too.
languiduck
Explorer
Jul 30, 2015
Are you saying that unloaded your ext cab dually only weighs 6,400#? That's amazing.
Grit_dog
Navigator
Jul 30, 2015
Powerdude wrote:
You obviously do not pack enough beer.
d@mn. Beat me to it!
Powerdude
Explorer
Jul 30, 2015
You obviously do not pack enough beer.