Joining the Diesel world

rhagfo wrote:
I use the #2 item listed in this study, feel very good about it 1/4 oz. per gal of fuel.

Lubricity study

I use the same in both my trucks (every tank), never had any fuel system problems.

GoPackGo wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

Campinfan wrote:
no not yet. lol I get it tomorrow. but maybe I will look into an extended warranty past the factory 100K mileage. Do people add a product like stanadyne or is it not needed inthe newer truck since the article I see about CP 4 failure are from 2013 and 2014

It's not required unless you live in an area that's very cold and diesel fuel can gel. In that case you'll need to run a anti gel additive during the cold winter months. Just make sure it's not an additive that emulsifies water.

Edit: I see you live in Michigan so yes you'll need to watch the temps and use a antigel fuel additive. Stanadyne, Power Service, and the Ford additives seam to be good products, but being from Texas we don't have the fuel gelling issues down here.

There ya go, scaring him away again, lol.
Don't need to add anything to your diesel in the north country in the winter as a general rule unless it's considerably colder than the normal lows for the season. Fuel is blended for the temps.
If traveling from warmer to colder climate combined with a bad cold snap is a concern for sure, but generally if you buy your fuel in the general area you're using it, you're fine.
Either that or I've had 1000 tanks of gelled diesel fuel and didn't even know it!

"Fuel is blended for the temps."

I think you mean to say Fuel is 'supposed to be' blended for the temps.

Once you have been driving down the road in -20 temps and had your diesel car or truck sputter to a stop, you will never again trust that fuel is treated adequately for winter temps.

I know some will say they have never had a problem. That just means that their fuel supplier is diligent about treating fuel. Some are not. A little anti-gel in every tank during winter means one less thing to worry about.

You can't even buy regular blend diesel in the cold months in my area - the suppliers only ship in the winter blend stuff. I imagine the same is true in any area with cold winters. There are many more important things to worry about.

Grit dog wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

Campinfan wrote:
no not yet. lol I get it tomorrow. but maybe I will look into an extended warranty past the factory 100K mileage. Do people add a product like stanadyne or is it not needed inthe newer truck since the article I see about CP 4 failure are from 2013 and 2014

It's not required unless you live in an area that's very cold and diesel fuel can gel. In that case you'll need to run a anti gel additive during the cold winter months. Just make sure it's not an additive that emulsifies water.

Edit: I see you live in Michigan so yes you'll need to watch the temps and use a antigel fuel additive. Stanadyne, Power Service, and the Ford additives seam to be good products, but being from Texas we don't have the fuel gelling issues down here.

There ya go, scaring him away again, lol.
Don't need to add anything to your diesel in the north country in the winter as a general rule unless it's considerably colder than the normal lows for the season. Fuel is blended for the temps.
If traveling from warmer to colder climate combined with a bad cold snap is a concern for sure, but generally if you buy your fuel in the general area you're using it, you're fine.
Either that or I've had 1000 tanks of gelled diesel fuel and didn't even know it!

"Fuel is blended for the temps."

I think you mean to say Fuel is 'supposed to be' blended for the temps.

Once you have been driving down the road in -20 temps and had your diesel car or truck sputter to a stop, you will never again trust that fuel is treated adequately for winter temps.

I know some will say they have never had a problem. That just means that their fuel supplier is diligent about treating fuel. Some are not. A little anti-gel in every tank during winter means one less thing to worry about.

rhagfo wrote:
I use the #2 item listed in this study, feel very good about it 1/4 oz. per gal of fuel.

Lubricity study

Good ol 2 cycle oil for the pre 07.5's works well. Designed to lubricate and combust.

FishOnOne wrote:

Campinfan wrote:
no not yet. lol I get it tomorrow. but maybe I will look into an extended warranty past the factory 100K mileage. Do people add a product like stanadyne or is it not needed inthe newer truck since the article I see about CP 4 failure are from 2013 and 2014

It's not required unless you live in an area that's very cold and diesel fuel can gel. In that case you'll need to run a anti gel additive during the cold winter months. Just make sure it's not an additive that emulsifies water.

Edit: I see you live in Michigan so yes you'll need to watch the temps and use a antigel fuel additive. Stanadyne, Power Service, and the Ford additives seam to be good products, but being from Texas we don't have the fuel gelling issues down here.

There ya go, scaring him away again, lol.
Don't need to add anything to your diesel in the north country in the winter as a general rule unless it's considerably colder than the normal lows for the season. Fuel is blended for the temps.
If traveling from warmer to colder climate combined with a bad cold snap is a concern for sure, but generally if you buy your fuel in the general area you're using it, you're fine.
Either that or I've had 1000 tanks of gelled diesel fuel and didn't even know it!

I use the #2 item listed in this study, feel very good about it 1/4 oz. per gal of fuel.

Lubricity study

Campinfan wrote:
no not yet. lol I get it tomorrow. but maybe I will look into an extended warranty past the factory 100K mileage. Do people add a product like stanadyne or is it not needed inthe newer truck since the article I see about CP 4 failure are from 2013 and 2014

I run Stanadyne year round. They have a winter formula to help with gelling. Our company buys it for our fleet vehicles (thousands), I figure it's good idea for my personal as well.

Keep an eye on the weather forcasts. If you have an early season cold snap you may want to go top off with #1. We had a dip to -20 around this time 2 yrs ago. Trucks froze up all along the highways and even in the truck stops. The winter blend at that time wasn't meant for that cold. I had a picture of a sign showing our area winter blend effectiveness for the year, but I must have deleted it.

What about additives to combat algae?

Campinfan wrote:
no not yet. lol I get it tomorrow. but maybe I will look into an extended warranty past the factory 100K mileage. Do people add a product like stanadyne or is it not needed inthe newer truck since the article I see about CP 4 failure are from 2013 and 2014

It's not required unless you live in an area that's very cold and diesel fuel can gel. In that case you'll need to run a anti gel additive during the cold winter months. Just make sure it's not an additive that emulsifies water.

Edit: I see you live in Michigan so yes you'll need to watch the temps and use a antigel fuel additive. Stanadyne, Power Service, and the Ford additives seam to be good products, but being from Texas we don't have the fuel gelling issues down here.

Thanks for the info, 2014 is much better than 2002. I can't say I understand why the Midwest and west coast are so much higher than the East coast. It appears they do this survey every two years so hopefully the release some new data soon. I'm here on the east coast so I guess I'm good to go.