Terryallan wrote:
myredracer wrote:
Bob Landry wrote:
Again, instead of guessing and accepting what you read on forums, a call to the specific manufacturer will tell you what they include in the weight and how it's measured.
I agree to a point, but I think there's something wrong when you ask the dealer and they have no idea. I think some manufacturers just don't have the info. or don't want you to know. Since many buyers are buying now based on weight, why would they disclose option weights and how they are calculated if they aren't required to?
KZ has the following qualifier on their site:
[COLOR=]UNLOADED VEHICLE WEIGHT (UVW) - The typical weight of this trailer as built at the factory. The UVW does not include cargo, LP gas, fresh water, options or dealer-installed accessories.
But if you ask for them for weights of options and dealer added items before you take possession, they can't tell you. That's just wrong. Some manufacturers are better than others though.
Take a specific example - if you buy a fiberglass cap as an option, how do they factor in the weight for it? Is it the net difference between the standard skin and f/g cap? I'm pretty sure the f/g cap will add weight, but how much? What does it do to the tongue weight? Maybe that's one reason our TW is much higher than expected? A dealer and manufacturer should have that info. on hand, I think.
Why can't there be some industry standard rules on how option weights are determined and published?
If regulations have been around since 2009, you'd think this would all be clear as day but it's not.
Notice . Propane in most cases is NOT dry weight. Pretty sure it's wet. Fresh water, also NOT dry weight. Wet again.
As for the fiberglass cap. Where was it installed? If you ordered it from the factory. It was also weighed at the end of the assembly line. If dealer installed. The dealer is required to add it to the sticker.
You can sit a come up with all kinds of things that add weight to a trailer. The yellow sticker, Is The weight of the trailer as you see it, when you walk up to it on the lot. NOT AFTER the customer adds his gear to it.
actually per the federal regs propane is considered part of dry weight. Mfg has two choices, way the trailer with full propane tanks and CCC =GVWR-UVW. Or weight the trailer with empty tanks and list CCC as GVWR-UVW-weight of full propane.
Second is what Keystone did on mine. So in my case CCC is 60lbs less than GVWR-UVW.
