Keyless vehicles

That is evolving as well. Audi’s virtual cockpit uses a CRT screen in place of the normal instrument panel that can be configured many different ways, including conventional instrumentation. Most of the central flat screen functions including a nav system that can use either conventional map or Google Earth display can be transferred to that screen and accessed through the steering wheel. They still use regular knobs and switches for things like climate control, lights, etc. You can do without it, but it sure is nice.

Bumpyroad wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
If you all like them I don't really care. To me they are a "convenience", and one I can easily live without. Complexity in all things is not necessarily a good thing. Free country, don'cha know.

have you/do you own a vehicle now that uses one? a 1939 hupmobile won't have these modern conveniences. other conveniences that are not in your hupmobile are electric windows, intermittent wipers, air conditioning, etc. try some.
bumpy :)

Got 'em, can live without 'em. Reminds me of when the carmakers went to flatscreens for all the controls. Sure looked cool, but you had to take your eyes off the road and scroll through screens to turn the radio down, turn on the fan, etc. Really convenient.

Use 'em, don't use 'em. Matters to me not a whit.

fj12ryder wrote:
If you all like them I don't really care. To me they are a "convenience", and one I can easily live without. Complexity in all things is not necessarily a good thing. Free country, don'cha know.

I'm the opposite. I like to evolve with the latest technology. In the '80s, solid state was hit or miss. Now, most of it is far more reliable and longer lasting than mechanical devices. Microprocessor control is the best thing going for our vehicles. If Ford would offer a hybrid F250 with a variable frequency drive like the Prius but capable of towing a TT or 5th wheel, I'd be first in line.

D.E.Bishop wrote:


I really like the old ones better, they are now $5 to $10 each and easy to program.

I was pricing the "old" ones and the amazon ads are a trifle misleading, some of the $5/10 ones are the empty cases only. and easy to program???, I checked that out and there are multiple steps,etc. involved and there was a warning that if you messed up, then it called for a trip to a Lock$mith $$$$ to correct.
had the statement "DIY step by step self-programming instructions included, some vehicles require dealer or locksmith programming"
bumpy

fj12ryder wrote:
If you all like them I don't really care. To me they are a "convenience", and one I can easily live without. Complexity in all things is not necessarily a good thing. Free country, don'cha know.

have you/do you own a vehicle now that uses one? a 1939 hupmobile won't have these modern conveniences. other conveniences that are not in your hupmobile are electric windows, intermittent wipers, air conditioning, etc. try some.
bumpy :)

Even though you never use it, just remember to keep your key hole lubricated. I've seen them seized up from no use and just about impossible to fix. You may need to use it someday.

TurnThePage wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
Just gotta love the "convenience" of those "keyless" locks that need a backup key "just in case". If you have to carry a key in addition to the fob, why bother?

Try it once, you'll never go back. The key never has to come out of your pocket. You don't have to fish for it while holding 3 or 4 bags of groceries. You won't lock it in the vehicle because it is still in your pocket when you exit. Not only that, the vehicle won't let you lock it if the fob is inside. It's an advancement pure and simple.

My truck even warns me when the fob battery is getting low.

X5 or so!
Fob is always in my pants pocket, need to get in, if only to drive grab drivers door handle, only drivers door unlocks. If I want to get in the tailgate, walk past passenger door and simply slip a finger behind the door handle, all doors and Tailgate unlock.
Love this as much as my rain sensing wipers.

If you all like them I don't really care. To me they are a "convenience", and one I can easily live without. Complexity in all things is not necessarily a good thing. Free country, don'cha know.

Mine won't lock if there is a fob in the car. There is a slot for the whole fob in my car, not one for a separate key. My wife really likes keyless/ pushbutton because she never has to fish around in a purse for her car key. I don't know what kind of car you have but the keyless fob for my Audi isn't any bigger than the remote for my truck which doesn't have keyless.

Well I didn't think about the key being inside the HUGE darn fob, but there it was, very hard to get and I sincerely doubt my wife could ever get it out without help.

There is a key slot in the door handle, now I have to find the one inside the vehicle.

I really like the old ones better, they are now $5 to $10 each and easy to program. My wife doesn't have her keys on the fob ring because it is too big for her pockets if she leaves her purse in the car.

And yes you can lock the fob inside at least some of the cars. If my wife leaves hers in the car I can lock the doors with my fob.