Keyless vehicles

Love the keyless and push button start. Never take the fob out of my pocket and haven't used the mechanical key in six years, the only time I see it is when I remove it from the fob to change the battery. The car knows when the fob is inside the car and won't let you lock it inside. Good stuff like that.

it is obvious to me that the "naysayers" have never had a "modern" vehicle. :)

bumpy

In the 4 years I've had my keyless Ram, I've NEVER had to use the key that's in the fob.

TurnThePage wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
Just gotta love the "convenience" of those "keyless" locks that need a backup key "just in case". If you have to carry a key in addition to the fob, why bother?

Try it once, you'll never go back. The key never has to come out of your pocket. You don't have to fish for it while holding 3 or 4 bags of groceries. You won't lock it in the vehicle because it is still in your pocket when you exit. Not only that, the vehicle won't let you lock it if the fob is inside. It's an advancement pure and simple.

My truck even warns me when the fob battery is getting low.

X2 Key is in the FOB so no extra key to carry. Move my foot under the back to open/close the SUV hatch.

fj12ryder wrote:
Just gotta love the "convenience" of those "keyless" locks that need a backup key "just in case". If you have to carry a key in addition to the fob, why bother?

You have to carry the fob, so an additional key is right there. Keyless is very convenient, no fumbling around to,open the door or start ignition.

fj12ryder wrote:
Just gotta love the "convenience" of those "keyless" locks that need a backup key "just in case". If you have to carry a key in addition to the fob, why bother?

Try it once, you'll never go back. The key never has to come out of your pocket. You don't have to fish for it while holding 3 or 4 bags of groceries. You won't lock it in the vehicle because it is still in your pocket when you exit. Not only that, the vehicle won't let you lock it if the fob is inside. It's an advancement pure and simple.

My truck even warns me when the fob battery is getting low.

CA Traveler wrote:
The battery in our Jeep FOB died and would not lock/unlock the doors from it's buttons. But when next to the door they would unlock in the normal grab the handle mode. Any insight to this?

Our 17 Lincoln MKX does not have a handle etc on the glove box ie no possible key. It's electrically opened by a button on the dash. Perhaps I should see if it opens without the FOB.

answer to the first question. Many of the newer "keyless" units rely on proximity detection of an RFID chip. That's in the fob. so when the car (battery working) detects the correct fob RFID it will unlock the doors if you have set it to do so or is the default.

This RFID has been around for decades and decades. Many ID badges used by companies have the chip in the badge so when you walk by the door sensor it unlocks it.

Now they are in credit cards as well.

Also current US passports have an RFID chip in them as well. They are thin and small enough to be un noticeable.

BenK wrote:

Now that trucks tire PSI lite is on. Annoying and found that the battery in the sender is most likely dead and the tire bead has to be opened to put in a whole new sender, the battery is built in

my PSI light is on in my 2011 highlander, has been on about a year. supposedly position # 1 is the problem. will "fix" that when I get new tires.
bumpy

fj12ryder wrote:
Just gotta love the "convenience" of those "keyless" locks that need a backup key "just in case". If you have to carry a key in addition to the fob, why bother?

much nicer/handier/easier to have a keyless entry/start/etc. system. wave hand to unlock/lock. and you aren't carrying the key in addition to the fob, it is part of the fob. and for the past 20????? years, I needed the key in addition to the fob to start the vehicle.

bumpy

Lots of these “convenience” items have a safety component and they all have an emergency “feature” going back to basics...

Just bought a used, mid sized crew cab and the only way to unlock three doors is via either the fob or drivers door master control button...or use the lock tab at the door handle...a PITA when the fob battery died on a trip...plus that battery was $7 bucks...

Now that trucks tire PSI lite is on. Annoying and found that the battery in the sender is most likely dead and the tire bead has to be opened to put in a whole new sender, the battery is built in

IMHO, connivence gets in my way to often...guess am getting to be an old codger...but am ok with that