Lance 1191

The 1191 is a great floorplan, but I would not carry it on a SRW truck.
My 05 1191 ready to camp was 5200lbs. Over my DRW GVW, but handled it ok.

I do not know if this is of value but here is the information for my 2005 1191. You can see from the figures that the ready to go weight will be over 5000 lbs.

This is the sticker on the outside. It shows a "dry" weight of 4144 lbs.



This sticker is from an inside cabinet and shows a weight of 4449 lbs. It includes most of the options.




This image shows the weight of the truck with a full tank of diesel.



This image shows the weight of the camper on the truck mostly ready to camp. You would need to add my wife, dog,food and beer and misc. items say 500-700 more pounds.



I have only seen one 1191 on a SRW truck. Below is a picture. The owner said he purposely did not want a DRW truck. The modifications he made, if memory serves, were new rims and 19.5 tires, upgraded springs, air bags and shocks and sway bar. He said it cost more than a dually when he was done but he was happy. Here is a picture.

bedrocker wrote:
Have a nice trip beachbum :)

. No maiden trips for a couple of weeks.

I'm a little concerned about putting a 015 1050s (ordering it today) on my old 99 Dodge 1-ton 4x4 dually! It hauls the old Lance 880 ok (I have added those bump stops to do the O/L springs & helped. I couldn't imagine putting the 1181 (which I prefer over the 1050) or an 1191 on my dually! but of course it has a lower GVW because of its age.
One good source for figuring added weight for options is from the Arctic Fox brochure or website. I found they pretty much list the individual wt for most everything. Lance is a pretty well equipped TC in its base model so maybe there isn't to much to add to there specs.
I,m sorry I don't know your situation, but after owning several new Ford f-250's in the 80's & 90's they all had poor brakes. I know things are better on the new one's, but I would definitely consider the F-350 just for the added margin the 1-ton has over the 3/4 ton. Just IMHO,
congrats on the new TC-Hope all works well.

The 1191 is my favorite floorplan , I wish I had one .
Part of the problem with the 1191 is, it has so much storage space, owners tend to fill areas that are empty . The real rolling down the road weights will vary from owner to owner.
When I went back-packing for a week I carried a 65# pack, often I think of just loading my back-pack into the tc. :)

in the link below, the Lance link on my post will not show, its the old 'get--a-quote' site, the rest of the post has some weight info.
more rv net 1191 weight info

TTBeachBum wrote:
I understand that the weight from Lance is different due to the added options. The weight on the sticker reflected that as opposed to the online specifications.

I know that we will not barreling down any steep mountain roads. We will be going from landlocked central FL to coastal FL (not even on the sand).

I know dealers will do anything to make the sale (car and RV). Family has more to lose and I trust my BIL's certified professional expert opinions and years of experience with Fords, RV's, and towing/tires as a technician. His employer(s) trust him. I also trust a close family friend (also Ford dealer) from former home.

This will be our third truck camper, just my first new truck camper. I would not say I am an expert though.


I never wish anyone harm, but do like to learn from others and appreciate the feedback.

The next updates probably will not be until after the upcoming weekend.

You’re doing great and lucky to have people there, to advise you. There are lots of very experienced and knowledgeable people here and it is good you are checking everywhere. My current Truck Camper, is my first (and only RV ever owned) and I am far from being an expert, as well. I wish more would do their homework, as you and your DH have done. We are lucky too, to have you sharing with us as this topic is a common occurrence on this forum. There are many reading your comments and interested in your solutions, as well as the advisements you are receiving.

What will be an additional interest, to others here, are what your modifications are and your eventual field testing and impressions were/are. The only constant here, with myself and others that own a Lance 1191, is that the weight provided by Lance is wholly inaccurate, even before options. With my own Lance 1191, I ordered a very stripped down model, no mattress, no microwave, no TV/Stereo, no Fantastic Fan and many other options deleted. But I did order an A/C and Generator (which I don’t recommend now). My first scale weight showed it to be, 4300#, with water/propane/2 batteries and no personal belongings or equipment (I stopped at the scale immediately after taking delivery of my Lance 1191). Your upcoming visit, to a scale, should silence anymore discussion on weight and open up more discussion on what your modifications are and results are. Plus, don’t forget to share pictures of your new LANCE and Truck combination. In this forum’s sticky, there is a thread to post a picture of your rig there too.

Thank you for being so kind, and generous, with your postings and thoughts.

b

Have a nice trip beachbum :)

btggraphix wrote:
Does a new Lance 1191 really only weigh 3500? I think my tag shows something like 4300 and it really weighs more than that. I can't remember exactly what it weighs since I care more about GVW but it is more than 4300.

I can tell you a 2011 Lance 1050S with A/C, generator, and rear awning with full 20 lb. LPG tanks and no water weighs 4,550 lbs.

Add water, food, clothes, towels, sheets, toiletries, reading material, laptop computer, Kindle, cell phones and chargers, extra 12 volt battery and you will pass through 5,000 lbs. very easy. And I forgot me and the wife. OMG - don't even mention carrying my daughter and 1-1/2 year old grandson and his stuff.

I WAS comfortable with my 1050S on a 3500 SRW with 19.5" wheels and Load Range G tires with Stableloads and Hellwig sway bar. But it is much more comfortable on a 3500 DRW.

There is just NO WAY I would load a larger TC on a 2500 without 19.5" wheels and tires and other additions to handle the load. Plus, I would maintain a less than speed limit on most roads. I have traveled 200,000+ miles with a TC on a 2500 & 3500 SRW with a Lance 1030, 1055, & 1050S.

btggraphix wrote:
Anyone remember the member who bought the pretty giant host and had a 250 and took long trip to pick it up? He got a lot of good advice (similar to the above) but was already committed to it and rolled with it. The reason I mention him is that he was very open and knew what he was getting into, and he followed up and filled us in on how it went and provided a pretty good perspective on it both beforehand and afterward. It would be a good thread for reference to the OP.

I carry a Host Mammoth on a 2001 F250.. The truck has been modded, the best thing I ever did was ditch the 16"/load range E tires and rims for 19.5" rims and load range G tires. Lots of the problems with weight is due to tire squirm - that's the fact that NO load range E tire has steel belts in the sidewalls of the tires, just in the tread area.

Yes, it has air bags, rear sway bar, bilstein hd shock, I went and purchased stable loads. Runs great, tires are still cold to the touch after several hundred miles at 65+ on the Interstate.

I am still waiting for the earth to open up and swallow me and the truck, for the fire and brimstones to start falling from the sky, and CHP to put out an APB when I take to the streets with this combo..

BTW, I'm below the tire, the rim, and the axle weight limits which is all that I am concerned about.

travelnutz wrote:
What he's saying is that that's the dry weight of a basic spripped 1191. Now add the weight of all options and they add up real fast. Any propane or water added. Water is 8 lbs/gal whether it's in the fresh water tank, the gray or black tanks, in the beer cans or wine bottles, canned goods etc. Anything you load in the TC or truck including the passengers. The TC hold downs even add weight. You will be over 4500 lbs when on the road even being conservative and very sparsely loaded!

You all are definitely right. I could not find on Lance's website their definition of dry weight. I know many manufacturers include propane, battery, generator, etc in their calculations and list it on the tag. Anyone find Lance's definition?? My deduction would be if it is not defined, not to include it.

I know how the weight added up on tt. I don't forsee us toting much water in the tanks as the CG will have full hook ups. So it will be drinking water for the humans and dog. Weekend food. The biggest weight will be DH's fishing equipment and tying down his poles so they are not on the bed.