looking for a travel trailer with bedroom on each end

Jayco used to make a 2 bedroom travel trailer that was like you described but it was not a toy hauler.

With your Silverado, are you maxed at about 8000 - 10000 towing capacity? Our '03 F150 5.4 is rated for 8000#. If so, you should be looking in the 6000 - 7500# range loaded and ready to roll.

Dick always suggests Trailmanor, although they rarely come close to what the OP is looking for, but couldn't hurt to look. Be advised they are not inexpensive and some consider a PITA to keep in good order with the raise/lower requirements

Agree that the screenroom could certainly gain you some living area as long as you don't have inclement weather....that's when the awning needs to go in ASAP.

Any chance the second bedroom is going to be used by teens or close?? Often, they're just happy as a clam to have their very own tent set up on the same site. Or...any chance you could look further into a toy hauler and mod that into a bedroom? What are the toys? It's not often that someone doesn't come up with some specific makes and models to take a close look at, but you may have pushed our limits. Good luck.

vickmorrow64 wrote:
I am pulling with a 2000 Silverado with a 5.3 motor and a class III hitch - 5th wheel is out as I have a fiberglass cap on bed

I admit I was out of your box there, and I suspected such, but you do have an unusual goal. I suppose that is why you are here looking though.

For your $20k, you might get a used, 2nd dedicated $8k tow truck and a used 5vr for $12k, but not likely a decent toyhauler in that price range. And any toyhaulers they are likely to be end-load to boot.

One of the reasons I bring up truck is because it is unlikely that your Silverado has an extreme tow rating, but it might be decent if it has a tow package. Now I'm not one of the "weight police" members around here, and I did tow a 30 footer with a small Ford Ranger for a while. It was slow, underpowered and underated which I could live with, but the transmission wasn't likely to live very long on the open road. I didn't go far from home with it. I finally bought used a 3/4 ton because they all come with HD trannies, tires and axles made for work.

So it depends partly on what you are going to need truckwise. It kinda sounds like you might have a beer budget and champaign taste to be honest. Not that there is anything wrong with that. But your compound goal might be near impossible without some compromise.

For your Silverado's ease, I have seen some new TT toyhaulers around 21-24 feet that are primarily marketed around here for folks to haul their Harley to Sturgis. They don't have a King bed, but rather a queen-size (short queen camper) and usually not slides.

They will however haul two large roadbikes and have a lot of room for another good-sized bed in the "garage" other than the kiddy bunk-styles (bunkhouses) that are so commonly available in family campers. So two couples can comfortably go to Sturgis if one couple is willing to set the 2nd bedroom up on site. And nobody needs to buy a semi to haul it far.

There is another way to gain more room with these smaller units. Available are screened in, fully enclosable patio kits to attach under the awning. So with an 8' x 16' awning, one can kick back bug-free to eat or even sleep extra bodies in this "large" room. It is also possible to park toys sort of inside, but out of sight overnight. I've even seen one with a propped-up small AC unit cooling it down, or a portable electric heater would work in cool weather too.

Good luck, whatever you choose.

Wes
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thz for the quick feedback - back to the honey do list

I am pulling with a 2000 Silverado with a 5.3 motor and a class III hitch - 5th wheel is out as I have a fiberglass cap on bed

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Generally speaking, the closest economical RV might be a pre-owned 5th Wheel toyhauler. The most common configuration is front bedroom (king with slide, some with low headroom) and a rear toyhauler access in the rear that also subs as a full size bedroom when the toys are out. They can be quazi-pulled by a HD 1/2 ton truck, but a 3/4 on up is better.

A similar option in a long Travel Trailer (TT) will be a little trickier to pull in a strong sidewind because of sway. That can be 95% alleviated by a Hensley type or Pullrite hitch and as heavy a truck as possible. Some Super-TT hitch tongue weights might exceed a Hensley type (about 1400#) unless the hitch is cu$tom made. Hensley types are sold by both Hensley and ProPride. If it is available for your truck, Pullrite is here and will accomodate up to 2000# tongue weight.

I note some of the recent, long (+40'?), heavy travel trailers are built more like a Park model, some with 2 full bedrooms (sans bunkhouse type), a residential 110v fridge, and apartment style stove. The difference lately is that they also often have holding tanks for fresh and wastewater instead of direct water/sewer only. They are unlikely to also have toyhauler entry, but often have 5' to 6' side patio doors. Probably only one patio door slides open, but might be open to "French Door" modification. If you wish heat and refrigeration underway, you might have to run power from a generator in the truck box.

Wes
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Look at www.trailmanor.com. While it doesn't match your list in every detail the 2719 has a bed at each end.

Well, you do have your work cut out for you. I have seen TTs with a master bdrm front and sort of a den/bedroom combo in the rear. Don't recall a rear slide with a bedroom front. Bunks, yes....bedroom, no. To the best of my knowledge, it's just been the past several years that the rear slides have gone from queen to king, so age may be a factor in your search. I would be very surprised if you find everything on your wish list. BTW, your height with a rear slide, even king, may be an issue with the hardside walls. Give it a test. You don't mention what your tow vehicle is, but IF you found a set up as you'd like, it's going to take a pretty beefy vehicle to tow it safely.

Suggestion...although these would be new rather than used, you might do some online research at RVWholesalers in Lakeview, OH and/or RVDirect, believe they're in NY. Both are huge volume dealers and have very complete websites. Plenty to look at and get some ideas of what's out there. Usually includes pix and maybe videos. Both are reputable dealers and you may find that you can buy new, assuming you find what you're after, for a comparable price to used. Good luck.