Ma dually pickup owners - reg question?

kill me no, but in ma is it only that? do they up my excise(road) tax also, my insurance company can only tell me what it will cost if I provide a vin, but claim I wont need added insurance as it isn't for business. It isn't all about the money, but also my time.

Is the $300 going to kill you about 3-4 tanks of disel, can you really afford to go on holiday.
Frank.

1jeep wrote:
I have a truck with a gvwr of 10k, I want something with at least 11500 to cover what I am towing just in case the laws change and they do start pulling rv's over.

You need to REALLY look at your laws. Here in Wa St as I mentioned earlier, I buy tags in 2K increments, I get to run down the road at the PAID for GVWR. So if you buy a doortag 11500 truck, you buy a 12K plate, you are legal to 12K. Or do as many I know not posting here, plus at least two that ARE posting here, buy a 14K plate, legal to 14K! One other including myself, had SW rigs with door stickers in the 9,xxx range, had 12K plates, again, legal to 12K.

Look at laws carefully!

marty

I have a truck with a gvwr of 10k, I want something with at least 11500 to cover what I am towing just in case the laws change and they do start pulling rv's over.

1jeep wrote:
I have a neighbor who is trooper and he couldn't accurately answer this, the DMV seems to have random answers. Sorry I don't need answers from people on the other side of the country nor do I need o know about what brand of truck I should buy.
MA rmv referred me to the website, which is why my questions come up, according to their info even if I buy a 350 srw I will need a commercial plate since its gvwr is over 10k.

This is why I ask if anyone from MA whom has a dually can give their experience.

Not sure about current model year, but late model SRW 350s could be ordered with 10,000 GVWR for reasons concerning registration.

Jerry

yes my fathers gmc dually he purchased new in 07 has non commercial plates and every year when he pays his $29 for the inspection they comment on it but just put on the sticker and let him go.

I am very torn between buying a 350 srw and dually, I know I should be looking at a dually because of the size of my 5th wheel, but I don't want the hassle that a dually is going to cause.

Since my new truck is over 10,000 gvw, I talked to a friend at the Rmv and a state trooper on the truck team. Both had different answers. But in the end, the consensus is duallies are a automatic commercial plate and the more expensive commercial inspection. Srw over 10,000 gvw is a commercial plate if using for commerce. You can transfer a passenger plate to a srw f350 if only being used for personal use. If you know someone with a dually that has passenger plates, they got lucky but since Massachusetts doesn't even know there own laws, they should be safe.

thanks everyone, as much as I hate to do it might just skip a dually and buy a 350srw, when I call the registry they direct me to the website. yes it has 5 or more tire and they claim it will be commercial, yet how would they know unless I told them.
Im trying to dot eh right thing and buy a truck that will handle my trailer and its future replacement but MA certainly isn't making it easy,

Me Again wrote:
As Marty says, Washington has a formula of tare weight times 1.5 and then rounded up to the nearest even K. So my old 2001.5 with 8800 GVWR was licensed to 12K. The new truck with 11,700 GVWR is licensed to the same 12K, I could have paid a bit more and licensed it at 14K. I was at 11,020 with a light load in the new truck and trailer on my first trip to the Cat Scale. So if we get a larger trailer We may or may not have to do that, as the rear tires may limit it from going over 12k anyway. Chris

Chris,

Rear tires will not limit you. We get 600 lbs per inch width of tire. Does not matter what the tires themselves say on the sidewall. You probably have the max axel wt of 20K available on the rear per the state laws. At least my 05 with 215-16's had the 20K available. Yeah they were rated to around 10-11K lbs total.......Add in 245's to the front, I could technically run down the road to 32K gvw with a 3500 truck!

You would probably run into problems with braking frankly. Not sure stock brakes can stop a 32K gvw rig in 25' at 20 mph or some such field test that would be done. Stop in that time, distance, you are good to go. You do not, you have a failed braking system, and are red tagged at the side of the road until brakes are fixed, or a flatbed hauls you to a mechanic.

One needs to know the local laws to see if they will or will not be legal. Wa st is pretty liberal as to how much we can or can not carry etc. as to not lose federal funding per Federal bridge laws. There are other laws as I have shown, ie braking that will get ALL of us in trouble before the weight laws go into effect. I've even been pulled over higher than my paid for license in MDT, but was given a 10 day up my license by 2000 lbs, as I was under the FBL limits! Even if I was over, it is not a moving violation, nor a jail time violation! The FBL's are there to protect the road bed only! from overloads damaging the road bed!

Marty

As Marty says, Washington has a formula of tare weight times 1.5 and then rounded up to the nearest even K. So my old 2001.5 with 8800 GVWR was licensed to 12K. The new truck with 11,700 GVWR is licensed to the same 12K, I could have paid a bit more and licensed it at 14K. I was at 11,020 with a light load in the new truck and trailer on my first trip to the Cat Scale. So if we get a larger trailer We may or may not have to do that, as the rear tires may limit it from going over 12k anyway. Chris