Man, they don't make 'em like they used to

Know what you are saying!! We had a 2004 19T4 for many years, and even though it was considered a low priced entry level trailer, it was well built. AND, had many features (we found out later on a 2010 Jayco!!) that were standard, not optional!! Auto changeover LP regulator (Jayco was manual!!), bed platform was solid, finished edges, smooth surface for mattress (Jayco was single piece of plywood, raw, unfinished)!!!! Never was under the trailer as to tank mounting, but do remember the Jayco fresh tank almost fell out!! Galvanized 2" strap sheet metal screwed to the frame members (half pulling out)!!!

Pioneer - $10K new, Jayco - $18k new!!!!

Our Outdoors is very well built, but has had some minor construction glitches that never had with the Pioneer!!!