Maximum payload question

ShinerBock wrote:

Terryallan wrote:

spoon059 wrote:

Terryallan wrote:
Actually max payload is all the truck is rated to carry, and all the BRAKES are designed to STOP. No matter where the weight is. The brakes are only designed to stop the GVWR of the truck.

BTW. at max GVWR. The brakes are not designed to stop ANY of the trailer.

Fairly certain that the axle rating takes into account the suspension, wheels, tires AND braking ability for the axle.

Furthermore, trucks are designed to be able to handle a certain amount of trailer load without brakes. On my Ram its either 3500 or 5000 lbs of trailer are allowed without requiring brakes (I'll have to check my manual, too lazy to go outside now though). Again... my Ram's braking system doesn't know if that weight is in the bed or on a trailer. It will just stop the load.

I believe that you will find. the brakes are in fact rated to stop the GVWR of the vehicle. meaning the brakes will stop the truck, and trailer well if they add up to the GVWR of the truck. Every thing over the GVWR is stopped by trailer brakes. A fellow that designed brakes. Finally convinced me of that, after I argued with him for several months. Because I towed pups with no brakes. and did fine. He proved to me that the truck had enough payload to cover most all of the weight of the pup.

But when fully loaded to GVWR. It was only to stop the truck. Just like tow capacity. every pound you put in the truck reduced the tow capacity. I suspect the same is true of the no trailer braking you mention. could be 5k when towing with a empty truck, but is reduced as you load the truck. but then I've been wrong before.

So are you telling me, that my brakes on my 2500 (which are identical to the brakes of the DRW 3500 per the Ram Bodybuilder) will only stop up to the 10k GVWR of my 2500? What happens when they are on a DRW 3500? Is there some kind of ferry dust that gets sprinkled on them to make them stop a higher GVWR truck even though they are the same?

Exactly!

The manufacture puts heavy springs under their vehicle and put's a 3 cent sticker on the door and it's all good with RV.net members.

I put the EXACT springs on the vehicle and no sticker and all of a sudden I'm putting woman and children on the road in danger.

They have the exact brakes, the exact frame, the exact tranny, the exact same engine but that 3 cent sticker is magic!! It makes all the difference in the world for some on here.