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Me Again wrote:
However the steering wheel is on the wrong side!!

Only ISIS uses the ones with the steering wheel on the other side ;)

RobertRyan wrote:

kw/00 wrote:
Well what makes your trucks better in the water then? Do they in close all electrical work then and enclose the engine area? Not being a smart ... but just curios. Here in the US plenty of people put there 4x4 trucks well off road. Especially in Florida, these boys here buy a brand new shiny truck and take it right to the woods. I can tell you from personal experience they have no problems driving them through swamps etc... all across America, guys really use there trucks for farming etc... I can tell u from growing up on a remote farm, we used our 4x4 vehicles all the time and they were abused horribly, but they got the job done. ..so another question is what about you rvs? How can they withstand the water so deep and get no damage ? Just wondering how they build it to withstand that punishment. I see you point about camping in remote areas in your country. Actually that's pretty cool !

On edit cool pics btw...

We used too use the same Pickups as you , same deal as regards abuse and use, but the 1 tonne Utes have taken over, no comparison.
As far as the RV’s go move too separate frames and suspension systems, composite materials.. Need a website too explain them. They, the Off Road RV’s are the fastest expanding section of camping vehicles in Australia
HD Pickups do have small prescence in Australia, but that footprint is declining.
US vehicles generally are in a bad way here. GM’s Subsidiary Holden has gone from No.1 too 10th. Colorado Pickup is roughly 17th in overall sales. Ford is not as bad currently 5th ,buoyed by the locally developed Ranger and Everest SUV . Other Ford SUV’s and cars do not sell.
Who is No.1? You guessed Toyota. It’s Hilux Pickup being No.1 closely followed by the Ranger, next surprisingly is the Mitsubishi Triton. The Navara which MAY replace your ancient Frontier, is much bigger. What it does lack is sales joining the Colorado as an also ran.

However the steering wheel is on the wrong side!!! :E :E

kw/00 wrote:
Well what makes your trucks better in the water then? Do they in close all electrical work then and enclose the engine area? Not being a smart ... but just curios. Here in the US plenty of people put there 4x4 trucks well off road. Especially in Florida, these boys here buy a brand new shiny truck and take it right to the woods. I can tell you from personal experience they have no problems driving them through swamps etc... all across America, guys really use there trucks for farming etc... I can tell u from growing up on a remote farm, we used our 4x4 vehicles all the time and they were abused horribly, but they got the job done. ..so another question is what about you rvs? How can they withstand the water so deep and get no damage ? Just wondering how they build it to withstand that punishment. I see you point about camping in remote areas in your country. Actually that's pretty cool !

On edit cool pics btw...

We used too use the same Pickups as you , same deal as regards abuse and use, but the 1 tonne Utes have taken over, no comparison.
As far as the RV’s go move too separate frames and suspension systems, composite materials.. Need a website too explain them. They, the Off Road RV’s are the fastest expanding section of camping vehicles in Australia
HD Pickups do have small prescence in Australia, but that footprint is declining.
US vehicles generally are in a bad way here. GM’s Subsidiary Holden has gone from No.1 too 10th. Colorado Pickup is roughly 17th in overall sales. Ford is not as bad currently 5th ,buoyed by the locally developed Ranger and Everest SUV . Other Ford SUV’s and cars do not sell.
Who is No.1? You guessed Toyota. It’s Hilux Pickup being No.1 closely followed by the Ranger, next surprisingly is the Mitsubishi Triton. The Navara which MAY replace your ancient Frontier, is much bigger. What it does lack is sales joining the Colorado as an also ran.

Well what makes your trucks better in the water then? Do they in close all electrical work then and enclose the engine area? Not being a smart ... but just curios. Here in the US plenty of people put there 4x4 trucks well off road. Especially in Florida, these boys here buy a brand new shiny truck and take it right to the woods. I can tell you from personal experience they have no problems driving them through swamps etc... all across America, guys really use there trucks for farming etc... I can tell u from growing up on a remote farm, we used our 4x4 vehicles all the time and they were abused horribly, but they got the job done. ..so another question is what about you rvs? How can they withstand the water so deep and get no damage ? Just wondering how they build it to withstand that punishment. I see you point about camping in remote areas in your country. Actually that's pretty cool !

On edit cool pics btw...

soren wrote:

RobertRyan wrote:

Grit dog wrote:
Okay, okay....lets just all concede that these little half pickup trucks with ridiculously long rear overhangs and low departure angles are really the best thing since beer in a can.
That way Robertryan can stop arguing with himself!

Pretty well summed it up. US Full size Pickups do not go Off Road.

I know more than a few ranchers, farmers, hunters, and off-road enthusiasts that would find you pretty funny. Do you stick to performing in Australia, or do you do comedy here in the states, also? BTW, I've done things in a full size trucks that would make those silly promo. shots of trailer towing, look like kids playing with matchbox toys, but I guess that didn't happen, since as you hilariously claim, "US full size pickups do not go off road".

Maybe not in your country, but in North America, they do just fine.

They fail here and elsewhere outside NA. Irony is we are now designing and developing your Ford Ranger a Ranger Raptor and have input into the next generation F150. Sure I will get plenty of comments how great they are in the US, but means nothing too people outside NA. We used too have your F100-F500 in the past, now nothing.

RobertRyan wrote:

Grit dog wrote:
Okay, okay....lets just all concede that these little half pickup trucks with ridiculously long rear overhangs and low departure angles are really the best thing since beer in a can.
That way Robertryan can stop arguing with himself!

Pretty well summed it up. US Full size Pickups do not go Off Road.

I know more than a few ranchers, farmers, hunters, and off-road enthusiasts that would find you pretty funny. Do you stick to performing in Australia, or do you do comedy here in the states, also? BTW, I've done things in a full size trucks that would make those silly promo. shots of trailer towing, look like kids playing with matchbox toys, but I guess that didn't happen, since as you hilariously claim, "US full size pickups do not go off road".

Maybe not in your country, but in North America, they do just fine.

Grit dog wrote:
And I'm not sure what makes the Austrailain trucks more amphibious than their counterparts around the world, but last I checked, these cool pictures of some dip chit towing their travel trailer through a river with water up to the top of the fender wells only serves to ruin a nice new vehicle with carpeted floors, and power seats! (And everything else that is electronic, below "water line."

Sound like you drive too a shopping mall for your holidays

Grit dog wrote:
And I'm not sure what makes the Austrailain trucks more amphibious than their counterparts around the world, but last I checked, these cool pictures of some dip chit towing their travel trailer through a river with water up to the top of the fender wells only serves to ruin a nice new vehicle with carpeted floors, and power seats! (And everything else that is electronic, below "water line."

No they are supposed to be waterproofed. That is why they are a Off Road or Dirt Road Caravans. Built with a specialised Chassis to take the punishment. .
I get the impression US RV’s only run on paved roads. Asking the impossible if you want too explore Australia. Yes the bulk of the population lives on the Coast, but exploring the Northern Territory, South Australia and Queensland an impossibility if you want go too remote areas

Kw00 wrote:
In my parents travels across the world, they have told me that in most countries you won't see HD trucks at all.

US vehicles are dying here This country should be perfect at for F150’s and HD Pickups at first glance. Not the case. Japanese/Korean and European vehicles dominate.
Greatest Irony we are now developing and designing the Ford Ranger for US and other countries use.

Grit dog wrote:
Okay, okay....lets just all concede that these little half pickup trucks with ridiculously long rear overhangs and low departure angles are really the best thing since beer in a can.
That way Robertryan can stop arguing with himself!

Pretty well summed it up. US Full size Pickups do not go Off Road.

Grit dog wrote:
YouTube has a whole host of "fails" videos of redneck dumb arses beating the he!! Out of their differnet vehicles.
Is this considered a status symbol in Australia if you can do the same with a brand new setup?

BTW, not against off roading. Love it. Just not sure what RR is trying to prove. Any 4x4 with an engine and trailer hitch can tow something down a trail or across a creek. Question is, would you want to?

Very simple. That is what people do here. Not in the US or Canada.
As a result no sales of Suburban/ Expeditions. US full size Pickups, US Travel Trailers etc