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- My daughter that is into horses has pulled her horse trailer about 15,000 miles with her 2013 Ecoboost. She upgraded the trailer last year from a bumper pull to a 3 horse gooseneck with living quarters and roof AC. She went with larger tires when the first ones wore out so the speedometer and odometer read about 3% low. She generally drives with the speedometer on about 70 and she reports 10 to 11mpg. She has made the trip from Pulaski to San Antonio several times where she burns multiple tanks of fuel and gets a pretty good idea of her fuel consumption. The trailer and truck are generally loaded with all of the stuff that she can fit in each trip. I showed her this video and her response was "they did something wrong". I have to say that from my experience I concur.
- Leaving on a three week cross country trip tomorrow and plan to fill tank to the second automatic shut off every time and hand calculate using GPS milage. Will not post results but should be pretty accurate.
RCMAN46 wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
TurnThePage wrote:
Isn't that what they do?
If you are referring to how the fuel fill is done, NO. They have nozzle in tank with full force when it clicks they wait 30 seconds the blast again til it clicks. They do this before they do the test run and after to determine gallons used.
NOT very Scientific IMHO.
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Explain how you would do the fuel fill that would be Scientific.
Fill the tank to the top each time at the same pump. I fill my truck to the top EVERY TIME.Groover wrote:
Lantley wrote:
Groover wrote:
Lynnmor wrote:
Groover wrote:
Ford does NOT require or even recommend Premium fuel. My own experience using nothing but the recommended 87 octane for over 100,000 miles, much of it trailer pulling, is that there has not been any engine or drivetrain issues.
This is a direct copy and paste from the owners manual:
For best overall vehicle and engine performance, premium fuel with an octane rating of 91 or higher is recommended. The performance gained by using premium fuel is most noticeable in hot weather as well as other conditions, for example when towing a trailer.
There is a difference between "best performance" and "you need to use it". I have never found the performance of my truck to be lacking and certainly have never felt the need to pay the price for premium fuel.
I think it would be worthwhile to try 91 octane and then make your decision. You may notice more power and increased MPG's. Then again you may not notice much difference
But without giving it a try you will never know
I have a very similar 3-horse aluminum trailer and I get about 11.5mpg towing it under mixed conditions, including the usual stops. If anything, they got much worse on 91 than I would expect with my 2016 or 2013 truck using 87. From their results I feel like it would be losing proposition to try 91. Heck, I get about what they got pulling my 11,000lb equipment trailer with a tractor on it. If their results indicate what 91 octane would do for me I am not interested. Now, if they had gotten around 13mpg I might consider it.
The comparison is not between your data and there's. It's not a contest. The issues is will 91 octane improve your trucks performance.
You have data on 87 octane with what you currently tow, Try a fill up with 91 octane and see if you have any improvement in you own results.
If Ford recommends it I would hope you see improvement.Lantley wrote:
Groover wrote:
Lynnmor wrote:
Groover wrote:
Ford does NOT require or even recommend Premium fuel. My own experience using nothing but the recommended 87 octane for over 100,000 miles, much of it trailer pulling, is that there has not been any engine or drivetrain issues.
This is a direct copy and paste from the owners manual:
For best overall vehicle and engine performance, premium fuel with an octane rating of 91 or higher is recommended. The performance gained by using premium fuel is most noticeable in hot weather as well as other conditions, for example when towing a trailer.
There is a difference between "best performance" and "you need to use it". I have never found the performance of my truck to be lacking and certainly have never felt the need to pay the price for premium fuel.
I think it would be worthwhile to try 91 octane and then make your decision. You may notice more power and increased MPG's. Then again you may not notice much difference
But without giving it a try you will never know
I have a very similar 3-horse aluminum trailer and I get about 11.5mpg towing it under mixed conditions, including the usual stops. If anything, they got much worse on 91 than I would expect with my 2016 or 2013 truck using 87. From their results I feel like it would be losing proposition to try 91. Heck, I get about what they got pulling my 11,000lb equipment trailer with a tractor on it. If their results indicate what 91 octane would do for me I am not interested. Now, if they had gotten around 13mpg I might consider it.- Since most half ton trucks usually aren't used for towing exclusively I wouldn't think that would be the most important concern for most buyers. It's the overall fuel mileage that counts. At least to me anyway.
Cummins12V98 wrote:
TurnThePage wrote:
Isn't that what they do?
If you are referring to how the fuel fill is done, NO. They have nozzle in tank with full force when it clicks they wait 30 seconds the blast again til it clicks. They do this before they do the test run and after to determine gallons used.
NOT very Scientific IMHO.
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Explain how you would do the fuel fill that would be Scientific.goducks10 wrote:
VernDiesel wrote:
The new 3.0 liter F-150 diesel would have swept the field. Should average 13 or 14 mpg for this test.
Latest issue of Trailer Life Magazine has the F150 3.0 towing a Lance 2465 that weighs loaded up for the test @6790 lbs.
They got 14.77 mpg towing and 25.64 non towing.
Towing was in the wine country in CA so not just a flat road somewhere.
Biggest issue with the F150 3.0 IMO is the fact that you have to get the Larait or higher trim package to get the 3.0. It's not even there in the XLT.
It's also available in the low trim to fleet buyers. I'm sure Ford will offer the 3.0PSD in other trim levels if there's enough demand.- My 2018 3.5 Ecoboost towing a 30ft all aluminum trailer est weight of 4K lbs, 6.5ft tall, 7ft wide, got 7.9MPG towing while using 91 oct no ethanol. Pretty windy day. Maybe 30 mph wind.
Return trip was 8.4mpg using 88 octane e-15 fuel. Was less windy, but not calm.
Im not complaining, its got good towing power, but its thirsty. I dont tow often with it. Wind did blow the truck and trailer around some. We usually use my buds GMC 2500 Duramax to tow this trailer, but couldnt that trip. His truck only gets blown around with 60+mph winds. TurnThePage wrote:
Isn't that what they do?
If you are referring to how the fuel fill is done, NO. They have nozzle in tank with full force when it clicks they wait 30 seconds the blast again til it clicks. They do this before they do the test run and after to determine gallons used.
NOT very Scientific IMHO.
The FACT they used three different people to do the fill and test drive is NOT very Scientific IMHO.
