Moving from diesel to gas...

bmanning wrote:


Careful, you're going to hurt some feelings on here pointing out facts like that, LOL.

Even more blasphemous? 1-ton DRW diesels are "light duty" also.

I can almost hear the "my diesel 1-ton is my identity" sect frowning.

Lantley wrote:

Engineer9860 wrote:

davisenvy wrote:

IndyCamp wrote:
Wow, what an entertaining thread.

I have only owned gassers, so I can't weigh in on the original question. Of course, it seems many of the posts have nothing to do with the original question.

Look, buy and drive what works for you.

Period.

There are new gassers that can EASILY outwork diesels from 10 years ago in most situations.

I don't care about longevity because we don't tend to keep cars or trucks more than three or four years before we trade them in on a new one. With that said, we gave my mother-in-law a 2006 Honda Accord that has over 200,000 miles on it and shows no signs of slowing down. I expect to easily get 350,000 miles or more out of that car (gasser, obviously). Shoot, we once put 400,000 miles on a Toyota Cressida (again, gasser, obviously) and sold it for $2,000. The buyer drove it away with no concerns or questions.

Sometimes the quality of build is more important than the type of engine.

Do you really think you'll get the same mileage out of a gasser tow vehicle?

By mileage are you talking MPG, or longevity? MPG, no. Longevity, yes. The modern gassers are proving to easily last as long as the smogged diesels.

When it come down to longevity on a vehicle that spends its life pulling a heavy load diesel will win vs. a gasser.
If we are talking daily drivers gasser are fine and there is little longevity inequality but if the engine is under load the entire time diesel wins.
Remember this is the tow vehicle forum not the commuter car forum

Hannibal wrote:
The F250 is a heavy duty "pickup truck". The F650 is a medium duty truck. An FL1200 is a heavy duty truck. In the big scheme of things, an F250 is a "light duty truck". :B

carringb wrote:

Lantley wrote:


When it come down to longevity on a vehicle that spends its life pulling a heavy load diesel will win vs. a gasser.
If we are talking daily drivers gasser are fine and there is little longevity inequality but if the engine is under load the entire time diesel wins.

Our 5.9L Cummins rollbacks would get rebuilds around 300,000. We had one Duramax with 300,000 but it was so low on compression is only made about 150 HP. Another Duramax in a TopKick 5500 was done at 200,000 and rebuilt costs are high enough it didn't make sense to rebuild that one.

Meanwhile other companies running V10s in the "Autoloaders" (aka Repo trucks) are going 500,000+ without rebuilds. And being a V10 they can sneak into your driveway without waking anybody up;)

I'm at 367,000 on my V10. Just did its 3rd tune up. About 200,000 of those are towing miles. Typical load is 22,000 combined, occasionally go over 25k.

The Texan wrote:

06Fargo wrote:

Hannibal wrote:
Cousin's husband owns a roofing business. Has a '94 F250 with 300cid I6, C6 and 4.10. The last time I saw it a couple of years ago it had 255k miles on it and still in the roofing business. I tease him about getting a new truck and he reminds me there's nothing wrong with the '94. Airport shuttle vans rack up hundreds of thousands of miles on their 5.4L's before they retire them. Nice plug for Honda though. My mom owned one and my dad two before they went back to Chrysler and Buick.

That right there is one of the best light duty trucks ever.

Since when did an F-250 become a light duty truck? This entire thread , with only a few exceptions, has claimed that you need a "heavy duty truck" ie, F-250 or heavier to tow a pop up....:?

davisenvy wrote:

IndyCamp wrote:
Wow, what an entertaining thread.

I have only owned gassers, so I can't weigh in on the original question. Of course, it seems many of the posts have nothing to do with the original question.

Look, buy and drive what works for you.

Period.

There are new gassers that can EASILY outwork diesels from 10 years ago in most situations.

I don't care about longevity because we don't tend to keep cars or trucks more than three or four years before we trade them in on a new one. With that said, we gave my mother-in-law a 2006 Honda Accord that has over 200,000 miles on it and shows no signs of slowing down. I expect to easily get 350,000 miles or more out of that car (gasser, obviously). Shoot, we once put 400,000 miles on a Toyota Cressida (again, gasser, obviously) and sold it for $2,000. The buyer drove it away with no concerns or questions.

Sometimes the quality of build is more important than the type of engine.

Do you really think you'll get the same mileage out of a gasser tow vehicle?

carringb wrote:

rhagfo wrote:
I just wonder how these discussions would go if it were not for the Ford 6.0 and 6.4 debacle?

I have had two Ram 4500 6.7L work trucks. Both were a disappointment due to the amount of time they spent down for repairs, and both used more fuel than my V10. At the time, a replacement Aisin transmission was a 3-week lead time.

Lantley wrote:


When it come down to longevity on a vehicle that spends its life pulling a heavy load diesel will win vs. a gasser.
If we are talking daily drivers gasser are fine and there is little longevity inequality but if the engine is under load the entire time diesel wins.

davisenvy wrote:

IndyCamp wrote:
Wow, what an entertaining thread.

I have only owned gassers, so I can't weigh in on the original question. Of course, it seems many of the posts have nothing to do with the original question.

Look, buy and drive what works for you.

Period.

There are new gassers that can EASILY outwork diesels from 10 years ago in most situations.

I don't care about longevity because we don't tend to keep cars or trucks more than three or four years before we trade them in on a new one. With that said, we gave my mother-in-law a 2006 Honda Accord that has over 200,000 miles on it and shows no signs of slowing down. I expect to easily get 350,000 miles or more out of that car (gasser, obviously). Shoot, we once put 400,000 miles on a Toyota Cressida (again, gasser, obviously) and sold it for $2,000. The buyer drove it away with no concerns or questions.

Sometimes the quality of build is more important than the type of engine.

Do you really think you'll get the same mileage out of a gasser tow vehicle?