My perception on real gas

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

Turtle n Peeps wrote:
Maybe I should tell my buddy to change his car from an alkie car to a gasoline car if gas makes more power.

There is a reason alkie makes more power than gasoline. Especially in supercharged cars. Alkie has O2 in it and gasoline does not.

Alkie (or gasoline with alkie) also has higher octane which does wonders with power on supercharged vehicles.

You're 100% not comparing apples to apples. While your statement is correct, for the application(s) you're referencing, you're just baiting the crowd with it in the context of the thread.....and your wrong in this context.

LOL, really?

Here's a statement I will make:

ANY engine from -1/8" cubic inch to 10,000 cubic inch + will make more power if it gets to burn more O2 AND fuel in any given time frame.

IOW's if a liquid fuel has O2 within it's structure, (like alcohol, and nitro does) it will make more power than "straight gasoline" EVERY SINGLE TIME in ANY engine.

E10 is an ox fuel. That why the EPA invented it. O2 fuels burn better and more complete.

The reason you can get more power out of E85 than E10 is the O2 content of the fuel. The same goes for "straight gasoline" and E10. You WILL get more power out of it! It's a given!

The reason you get more power out of nitromethane than ethanol is because nitro has over 50% O2 built into it, even though it has way, way, way LESS energy in it.

That is why a TFD burns 12+ gallons of nitro in 4 seconds.

And that is why you will burn about 3 to 4% more fuel on E10 than "straight gasoline" but you WILL make more power with any ox fuel.

Here is a little article about Oxygenated fuels and how they can make more power in ANY engine.

Yes really. Step back from the all knowing type attitude and read what I wrote. And read your last sentence. "Can" isn't "do." That's the difference between "may" and "shall."
I agreed with you, but I know a couple things about engines as well and I'm betting you don't have the programming for an Ecoboost and all the fuel, timing, boost, etc maps and their effects memorized. None of us do.
(Presume the OP is talking about an Ecoboost since the only other modern turbo gas pickup is the new little Chevy motor)
You're correct that you "can" make more power with oxygenated fuel in alot of applications. You will also burn a correspondingly larger amount of fuel too. And there is advantages, especially in NA applications by stuffing a little or alot more air into the cylinder via the type of fuel.
Since neither you nor I know the exact effects of all the capabilities of the eco boost components and the all the programming, it's entirely plausible that the engine ran a wee bit stronger on pure gas. Most notably, is for the same injector flow rate, the fuel system was pumping more energy ability into the cylinders (remember gasoline has more energy than ethanol for the same volume of liquid) and the turbo(s), sensors and mapping were able to handle the extra "fuel" (cause it's probably tuned with E10 in mind, less energy per volume of fuel) and as a result, light off the optimal AFR all while putting a bigger explosion on the piston.

This aint a case of your alcohol burning drag car makes more power than my Toyota Corolla because it's burning moonshine.
Its these broad brush claims though that elevate the bs status to Kayteg level, and others who can't get off dead center because they're always right.