Need Tire Recommendation; Disappointed in Firestone H/T

I liked my BF Goodrich Rugged Trail T/A's until they were down to around 8/32 of tread. Then they were worthless on wet roads. Towing the trailer made it even worse. AT 8/32 the siping was gone unlike Michelin tires that have siping all the way down to the wear bars.

Don

FishOnOne wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
"Problem is they don't make that tire version anymore and the new version of this tire is not as good. I've run both types."

Friends Son that owns this truck now just bought the same tire to replace one that was damaged in an accident.

That's interesting because their website only shows the new version tire for several years now

Sure looks the same. Not near him or I could take pic of the new one.

Don't bother with KO2. First half of the tread is really good. Unfortunately that doesn't last long. I have said many times, but when new, I am not sure there is a better tire on ice. Love them for that, but in deep snow they suck, mud they suck and they wear far to fast. Once more than half gone, they are not as impressive on ice. They look good, but that is about it after 50%.

Cummins12V98 wrote:
"Problem is they don't make that tire version anymore and the new version of this tire is not as good. I've run both types."

Friends Son that owns this truck now just bought the same tire to replace one that was damaged in an accident.

That's interesting because their website only shows the new version tire for several years now

Atlee wrote:
That isn't good news. So you're saying the BFG KO2's aren't as good?

There is no doubt I'd replace with the exact same tire if I could. I've found this tire to be as good a all around tire as I could get. I don't really go off road much, so I don't want a really aggressive tread design. But I don't want a strictly highway cruising tire either.

FishOnOne wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Atlee wrote:
This is a picture of the tread on my BF Goodrich Rugged Trail T/A. I have 52k miles on them.

YUP, great tire properly inflated and rotated.

Problem is they don't make that tire version anymore and the new version of this tire is not as good. I've run both types.

What I'm saying is the new Rugged Trails are not as good as the original like in this picture.

As for the KO2 I haven't run those

Michelin LTX
or
Bridgestone Duravis

No point, IMO, in other tire lines. Pick appropriate model.

As another noted, diesel pickups aren’t themselves the problem. But one ton series truck expected to do real work over long distances shouldn’t ever skimp on tires ( or brakes).

I’m newly onto the second set of replacement tires at 215,000 (miles, not time). .

First A/S went 120k at 4/32, and second set to 80k plus with 5/32 total wear. Then all four failed (2006-date code) in 2012. Note miles.

Michelin gave me a complete new set of M/S within 1/2-hour of calling for $300 out the door. 90-miles on a rollback to “my” Tire Rack dealer and I was good to go within the hour. Had them rolled out & waiting for me.

Had they not deteriorated early (and my life not changed) I was on track to have made it to a quarter-million miles with two sets of tires

I might or might not rotate at 25k intervals. My driving is 50/50 town & country. One brake job in 14-Years at 120k. Didn’t need it then, and guess I ought to do it again even though it doesn’t really “need” it now.

Respect the truck. Don’t push it around. Let it tell you what it wants. If that doesn’t make sense, go back to a Camry. 70k for tires and brakes should be a minimum.

At the same time, sloppy steering, cheap shock absorbers and inferior brake materials will magnify bad habits. I upgraded my 2WD with a rear anti-roll bar and upsized the front. The body no longer moves against the suspension. Easier, IOW, to enter and exit a turn. And while the trailer is almost unnoticeable, can’t say that about crosswinds. This effect was minimized. Already had 4600 Bilsteins.

All of this makes life easier on tires (pressure according to Scale value loads). So, look farther out at what could increase the tire wear rate.

(Also had to update signature to reflect $3/gal diesel with trip plan fuel cost numbers).


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"Problem is they don't make that tire version anymore and the new version of this tire is not as good. I've run both types."

Friends Son that owns this truck now just bought the same tire to replace one that was damaged in an accident.

That isn't good news. So you're saying the BFG KO2's aren't as good?

There is no doubt I'd replace with the exact same tire if I could. I've found this tire to be as good a all around tire as I could get. I don't really go off road much, so I don't want a really aggressive tread design. But I don't want a strictly highway cruising tire either.

FishOnOne wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Atlee wrote:
This is a picture of the tread on my BF Goodrich Rugged Trail T/A. I have 52k miles on them.

YUP, great tire properly inflated and rotated.

Problem is they don't make that tire version anymore and the new version of this tire is not as good. I've run both types.

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Atlee wrote:
This is a picture of the tread on my BF Goodrich Rugged Trail T/A. I have 52k miles on them.

YUP, great tire properly inflated and rotated.

Problem is they don't make that tire version anymore and the new version of this tire is not as good. I've run both types.

Yeah, it’s partly the tires and mostly how you use em. I can kill a set of tires in record time or make em last. Depends what, where and how